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gadfly
Joined: 25 Jun 2004 Posts: 31 Location: Turkey
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Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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Hi everybody ,
Hi Corall ....yess i know some people write something without thinking very well...I am sure if i go to Canada with my husband i would offend about somethings or diffrences aswell....but i think i would not tell him Canadians are disgusting or smell badly etc etc ...cuz he is Canadian and i would make my critics more carefully ....everybody can say their idea or critics but there is more polite way to say somethings ....He ıs really very good man but sometımes he does not know the borders between crıtıcs and ınsults
Whynotme ,,,,,yess when i enter public bus ın Turkey , i don`t like people smell aswell but as i explained if there are 100 people enter same bus in same time it is possible bad smell sure plus Turkey is hot country not cold like Canada so people sweats a lot .....yess some people put their garbages in streets , some people spit on street in Turkey and we call this kind of people ' Maganda' ın Turkey as you know .....but my sister lived in England long time and she told there are more Magandas there that they put their meals in streets, they vomit, after they drink a lot and fast they fight , after they exit bars etc etc ....so these are wrong thıngs but not only Turkey s problem anyway maybe I could just laugh and make jokes about thıs ıf another person tell these comments but when my husband tell somethıng about my culture ı easıly offended sınce he told me you Turks stole all meals from Greeks to tell the truth ıf he call Istanbul as Constantınopolıs I would not suprısed so much
We all come from dıffrent cultures , dıffrent values , dıffrent habbıts , and truths change culture the culture and person to person so there ıs only one way to get along and lıve pıecefull together that ıs to be more polıte and carefull when we talk or crıtıc each other |
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dmb
Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397
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Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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my sister lived in England long time and she told there are more Magandas there |
Not technically true. They are called chav. But yes it is more common in the Uk than Turkey. one of reasons I left the UK was beause I didn't like the way society was going. I came to Turkey in 1992. I've spent most of my adult life here. I feel more at home in Turkey than the UK. |
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ardabay
Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 19 Location: Istanbul
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Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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Hi everyone,
I think the smell on the buses can be tolerated to some extent, u know the more people on the bus the worse it becomes that�s acceptable but when it comes to spitting on the streets and throwing garbage all around, that�s another thing. Throwing things to the sea while riding on a boat is the worst of all I guess. Whenever I see someone throwing a cigarette butt to the sea I just want to grab his legs and dump him right into the sea and I�m afraid I�ll have to do that one day. While I was a student at university, I used to go to Eminonu by boat every day and I always had quarrels with people about throwing things to the sea. I was trying to make them understand this was wrong and I remember saying things like �The sea is not capable of cleaning itself, is it?� and I also remember getting replies like �There�s no need to worry cos the fish can eat�em all and keep our seas clean�. �Eğitim şart !� if u know what I mean By the way, I don�t know whether we stole any meals from the Greeks but there�s one thing I�m sure of, they stole baklava from us |
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calsimsek
Joined: 15 Jul 2004 Posts: 775 Location: Ist Turkey
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Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 9:50 am Post subject: |
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Hi Travellinggirl68,
Normally I would lay off a thread thats been going for a while but some of the comments here are so wrong I had to say somthing. I think you will find that although you have never been to Turkey, you know it better than some of the people here.
Ghost for one can come off as an expert after what he said himself was a short time.
I've been here for over 13 years and have been to places most Turks will never go to in this country. Theres full range of views and styels here to every thing.
Water is no problem along the north west cost of the black sea and along the south east of the Med and Agean sea so here people tend to be cleaner. They have no tradition of worring about water. In the southeast its different. Up to less than 6 years ago there was no running water at all in Urfa and the area around it. The Turks have spent millons and millons building the G.A.P dams to give the center and southeast the water it never has had.
The thing with showers is that Turks have a fear of catching a cold. So in winter they wash less. This fear while taken to extream is vaild. Most Turks, ( most of the women) lack iron so they feel the cold. It common illness and pregent women here take pills to build up their own blood supply.
As to food The Turk's come from your apart of the world. Most of the Veg dish come from the Greeks, there are no vine leafs in central Turkey. Kebab is Turkish as is Siskebaba. As to baklava, thats from Syria not Turkey. The Best baklava in the country comes from Antep 4 hours form the boarder and 8 hours from Apolo the second city in Syria.
I said I've been here for awhile and I may come off as a know it all, yet theres still alot I don't know. If you live in a country, then enjoy it. Who gives us the right to come here and Judge them 'smelly people on the bus'
No one . |
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Baba Alex
Joined: 17 Aug 2004 Posts: 2411
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Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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dmb wrote: |
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my sister lived in England long time and she told there are more Magandas there |
Not technically true. They are called chav. But yes it is more common in the Uk than Turkey. one of reasons I left the UK was beause I didn't like the way society was going. I came to Turkey in 1992. I've spent most of my adult life here. I feel more at home in Turkey than the UK. |
Indeed, what you guys seem to forget that this is a crowded city, most of the major cities I've been to Rome, Paris, London, Birmingham, Berlin, Moscow a a few others, have smelly people, and a bit of rubbish (especially Paris, that place is well dirty). All except for Brussels and Bruge in Belgium, which are so clean they freak me out. I didn't want to touch anything. |
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travelingirl68
Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 214 Location: My Own State of Mind...
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Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:31 pm Post subject: Stop the Insanity! |
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However did it turn into this conversation?? I am accustomed to the scent of washed but un-deoderized males - I find it strangely intoxicating! The only place I have been that was truly smelly was in New York City in an area where fish is displayed outside on the street all day long - and I am not a fan of fish!
Now, will someone please give me the background details about Eastenders already? References to good Turkish music or places to see?? Anyone?? |
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Faustino
Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 601
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whynotme
Joined: 07 Nov 2004 Posts: 728 Location: istanbul
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Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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tg68,
there is no need to watch it,follow the eastenders threaed... it is enough.... |
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Faustino
Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 601
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Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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Some would say too much. |
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justme
Joined: 18 May 2004 Posts: 1944 Location: Istanbul
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Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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As far as I know, the smelliest people in the world are to be found in Eugene Oregon at Saturday Market in the ranks of lost Deadheads and (wish we still had a movement) Hippies. These are people who have moral objections to soap, even bio-degradeable soap. They don't realise that even if you wash your dreads, they never quite dry properly and your head still smells like that wet towel you forgot under the bed. Worse, there's an underground pseudo-anarchist movement of people who don't bathe as a matter of principle-- throwing off the shackles of bourgoise notions of hygiene, or something to that effect. Greenish teeth and a layer of filth it would take a wire brush to remove...
And I know we (expat teachers) tend to make sweeping generalisations about Turks, their habits, and their culture. I'm sure I'm guilty of quite a few and I apologise if I've offended-- I don't really think about Turkish people reading this (and I would certainly discourage my husband from doing so-- you're quite right to feel insulted). For myself, I need to let off steam sometimes. Being foreign, you're always an outsider-- it's Us and Them, especially during a bad week. Maybe more for me, since I'm sometimes the only foreigner I see or talk to for varying stretches of time, so those petty annoyances take a different face. And I admit there are times of feeling justified in generalising after listening all day to students and other Turkish friends or acquaintances saying things like 'Foreigners do such-and such, foreigners eat such-and-such, foreigners think/believe such-and-such...', as though we're all exactly the same, from this one big horrible Christian country where they all eat raw fish and dogs, go outside with wet hair, and are plotting to keep Turkey out of the EU based on the things they learned in Midnight Express (which I've never seen).
Nope, not a dig at Turks, just a vent. See how easily it happens? |
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corall
Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 270 Location: istanbul, turkey
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Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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yes i too do the sweeping generalizations of turkey when i have bad living in turkey days... |
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Baba Alex
Joined: 17 Aug 2004 Posts: 2411
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Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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There's nothing wrong with making generalisations, it's the easiest way to make an observation about society. It's when we treat individuals with predudice that it becomes a problem. |
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googlebrains
Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 41
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Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 1:24 am Post subject: |
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how was your interview? |
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travelingirl68
Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 214 Location: My Own State of Mind...
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Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 1:27 am Post subject: |
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Thanks to several people on this forum, what I expected! It's funny, usually I have an idea of which way things went after an interview, but this time I really do not know... They said they would let me know within 10 days. When are you expected on campus? I know I read somewhere on here that it takes 4 months to get all the paperwork for work visas, etc. |
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googlebrains
Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 41
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Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 2:31 am Post subject: |
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travelingirl68 wrote: |
Thanks to several people on this forum, what I expected! It's funny, usually I have an idea of which way things went after an interview, but this time I really do not know... They said they would let me know within 10 days. When are you expected on campus? I know I read somewhere on here that it takes 4 months to get all the paperwork for work visas, etc. |
If I take the job, I must be on campus and report to work officially on Sept.1, though they said I can move into my apartment as early as June. It may be different for you: there may be training/orientation sessions if you're teaching in the prep school or the first year english program.... Good luck! |
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