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7969



Joined: 26 Mar 2003
Posts: 5683
Location: South China, by the sea.

PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2003 2:14 pm    Post subject: Am I obligated yet? Reply with quote

i came here a couple of months ago and began working for an agent. i don't mind earning a bit less in salary as i am pretty much able to write my own schedule, but now i'm having second thoughts on whether or not i want to stay working for this person for other organizational reasons.

i did a visa run to bangkok last month and returned with the 60 day visa. i paid all expenses myself and continue to work for this person. however, now that i'm thinking of pulling up in the next month or two to work somewhere more desirable, i want to know if i'm obligated to stay with this agent? i have no ARC at the moment and the only documentation i have from this agent is the paper that i used to get the 60 day visa when i went back to bangkok. can anyone tell me my status as far as indicating to my agent that i want to move elsewhere within a month or two without worrying about any kind of penalty?

cheers ~ 7969
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EOD



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Location: Taiwan

PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2003 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't tell them you want to work somewhere esle. Tell them you have a family emergency and you need to be paid before you leave. If they are withholding any pay, ask for an advance.
What is your visa situation?
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Joined: 26 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2003 2:41 pm    Post subject: Visa situation.... Reply with quote

i'm just on the 60 day visa. expires in another 5 weeks. what is the process to get it extended, if i may ask?
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Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2003 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your not obligated except for time worked that hasn't been paid yet. you owe them nothing till they get you an ARC. You are deportable at any time for any reason. Therefore act accordingly. Find a decent school pay a decent wage with a decent boss providing a decent curriculum and be a good teacher. Why enrich someone else for what you can do yourself?

Visas can be extended by signing up to non-compulsory Chinese classes.

The only forseeable problem is if your agent freaks out. This can and has happened. They will promise all under the sun irregardless of how they act to keep you working and then normally systematically break all those promises in short order and then blame you when you get upset for them breaking the promises they made to get you to stay. It is remarkably like an abusive relationship if you are on the outside looking in.

Proceed carefully and keep your head straight.

May the Force be with you
Okami
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EOD



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2003 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The only forseeable problem is if your agent freaks out. This can and has happened. They will promise all under the sun irregardless of how they act to keep you working and then normally systematically break all those promises in short order and then blame you when you get upset for them breaking the promises they made to get you to stay. It is remarkably like an abusive relationship if you are on the outside looking in.

Good call and great advice. You may also want to give your, soon to be former employer some face and change cities. It certainly couldn't do much harm and may go a long way towards your future job security.
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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2003 7:56 am    Post subject: some of my reasons... Reply with quote

for wanting to leave are that first f all, i don't actually work for this agent, only use their bushibanas my HQ so to speak. i use the computer there and some of the books. other than that, all my work is done at other scholols. having said that, sometimes getting a package of paper or ink to fill the printer cartridge is like pulling teeth. overall, my agent is so disorganized that i have to request anything several times before it gets actioned. since i'd been in korea before, i sort of expected this.

secondly, if i don't want to do a particular job that i've been assigned, i'm urged vehmently to stick with it for a bunch of reasons that i see as bogus. if i don't want to work a particular class for whatever reason, that's good enough for me. a couple of the schools i go to have students who have no interest in learning english.

thirdly, i have to drive a scooter to all of my jobs, some are nearly 15km one way from where i live. i don't fancy riding a scooter that much in this country as, statistically speaking, my chances of having an accident are greatly increased. i prefer work closer to home where i waste less time travelling around, although the countryside here is kind of nice.

at any rate, i now have my foot in the door in taiwan and will be looking around, although i do want to stick it out in this place for another few months. six months for the resume at this place will look better than one or two, in my opinion at least.
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