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andyscott84



Joined: 02 Nov 2005
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Location: Woop Woop, China

PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going to be heading back to Australia soon, so I'll be sure to come back and post any difficulties/good parts for people. I'm hoping it will be as simple as meeting the DOS and asking for a job, them saying 'Sure.'

That's what we all hope for, have to wait and see.
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lozwich



Joined: 25 May 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck! And let us know how you go!

Wave to Australia for me,
Lozwich.
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Chonbuk



Joined: 15 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy,

The other big problem is that NEAS award system doesn't recognize your non-British council type schools.

So, I have 10 years teaching experience. 8 years outside of OZ and 2 years in Aust. So, yes I do get hired because of this experience but I don't get paid for it. So, my salary goes from 40/hour to 27 per hour, because I only get paid for my experience in OZ.

A real pain in the butt.


Also the contracts tend to be short 5 to 10 weeks- easy to come by, but no job security.

I think Super Mario has the best idea, cause there is a shortage of ESL teachers in the public and Catholic sectors, I only wish that they would accept M ed.s in lieu of B. ed's but they won't in NSW.

Good luck.

Chonbuk
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lozwich



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chonbuk wrote:
The other big problem is that NEAS award system doesn't recognize your non-British council type schools.

So, I have 10 years teaching experience. 8 years outside of OZ and 2 years in Aust. So, yes I do get hired because of this experience but I don't get paid for it. So, my salary goes from 40/hour to 27 per hour, because I only get paid for my experience in OZ.


Shocked What do you mean by non-British Council type schools? I worked in Oz and had no problem getting my overseas work counted when it came to working out how much I should be paid. Something sounds a little fishy there...
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Chonbuk



Joined: 15 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

Sorry for the delay,

That took a while to find the proof that you asked for:

Yes, it does feel like I'm getting ripped off but it's all a part of the industrial relations

http://www.industrialrelations.nsw.gov.au/awards/pathways/results.jsp?award_code=802&show=Content&content_id=1579321

This is for NSW... other states might be different, but the key point is that they only recognize certain school in terms of renummeration, but they will hire you because of that very same experience just not pay you for it...


Sounds like things are better for you, hope that is the case in Canada also


Chonbuk
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JZer



Joined: 16 Jan 2005
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Location: Alaska

PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Also the contracts tend to be short 5 to 10 weeks- easy to come by, but no job security.


Have any Brits, Americans or Canadians taught ESL on a working holiday visa. I would like to apply for a working holiday visa next year after I am done with my current contract. I would prefer to teach ESL than work on a farm or in a bar. I have taught German for two years in the U.S. and am currently working at a Korean university.
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ls650



Joined: 10 May 2003
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Location: British Columbia

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been told that Australia's WHV lets you work for a year - but that no one employer can hire you for more than 3 months at a time. Is that true?
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lozwich



Joined: 25 May 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi ls,

Yes, it is true. Check out this site for more information. http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/whm/obligation.htm

Cheers,
Lozwich.
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