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tonetrippen
Joined: 30 Jul 2003 Posts: 17
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Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 1:50 pm Post subject: IPETQ, then and now. |
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In the risk of repeating, I thought I would start a new thread. I have read everything that was said about IPETQ and there is not a lot of current comments. There is the thing of people getting sacked and that maybe the cause of that is no longer there. I wonder if we can get some people that are currently working there to comment on the present situation.
I am thinking that if there is any intelligence within the organization they would eventually realize it is better to keep a teacher happy within reason. Maybe "eventually" is not too far away.
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veiledsentiments
Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 3:48 pm Post subject: Re: IPETQ, then and now. |
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tonetrippen wrote: |
I am thinking that if there is any intelligence within the organization they would eventually realize it is better to keep a teacher happy within reason. |
I've been involved with Gulf education in various countries since the late '80s... and I haven't seem much of this in any of the organizations. Teacher happiness is usually so far down the list of employer goals as to be invisible to the naked eye... (must say this is also true for ESL departments in the US)
Hopefully someone will come on and do an update on the tale of IPETQ... It has had its ups and downs over the years.
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British Tutor Kuwait
Joined: 25 Nov 2005 Posts: 41 Location: Kuwait
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:48 am Post subject: IPETQ, then and now? |
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I know definately that one experienced teacher with a Masters in Linguistics, as well as years being one of the best translators in Kuwait - was working there until July 2006. They told him to finish at short notice, without prior warning. Salt on the wound or what .... they suggested he tell friends to apply to IPETQ as taking on new staff and already being in the process of starting a number of new teachers - some of whom commenced prior to his last working day.
This post was edited because, just as a journalist would, I am citing the one person whom I know directly and what was said. However, I have not yet personally met the others ... yet, as noted. When I do, well .....
Meanwhile, let the Westerner under the name MiddleEastMan kindly furnish readers with additional facts, or does he not have any ?
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middleastman
Joined: 19 Feb 2006 Posts: 73
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:54 pm Post subject: rubbish |
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Specialist
Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Posts: 13
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:29 am Post subject: |
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Middleastman I can corroborate what British Tutor Kuwait is saying.
I think she is in the know with regards IPETQ. Regarding your post about your identity I think I have a pretty good idea who you are! Remember Kuwait is a very small place. |
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British Tutor Kuwait
Joined: 25 Nov 2005 Posts: 41 Location: Kuwait
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:34 am Post subject: IPETQ, then and now ..... corroboration |
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Thank you for being the Specialist with words of truth and corroboration!
Once upon a time there was a person in charge at IPETQ, who no longer is. Teachers come and teachers go, allegedly, according to the whims of such bosses. However, bosses have departed also, following exposure in the local press and employee's legal action in Kuwait.
MiddleEastMan mentioned facts ..... he might recall that facts were printed in the local press years ago prior to the court action which spearheaded management change. One of the journalists ensured evidential 'facts' only, were presented to readers and the Kuwait court proved such, awarding due payments. MiddleEastMan - remember that journalist?
Whether in Arabic or English newspapers .... or this forum, perhaps time will tell lots also regarding the purpose and role of MiddleEastMan .... |
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middleastman
Joined: 19 Feb 2006 Posts: 73
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:11 pm Post subject: ! |
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middleastman
Joined: 19 Feb 2006 Posts: 73
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:16 pm Post subject: mmm 2 |
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Also british tutor you seem to have edited your previous posts. I wonder why?? |
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British Tutor Kuwait
Joined: 25 Nov 2005 Posts: 41 Location: Kuwait
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:30 pm Post subject: Mmmmmm 2 |
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Repetitive what?
Anyway, it was just confirmed via a mobile call from that one Teacher that yes, when he started and ended recently at the Hawally facility, it was with IPETQ. MiddleEastMan could now come clean with his facts. Or no more to be noted really. |
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Fred Bilbo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 52 Location: Kuwait
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 5:08 pm Post subject: The Topic is IPETQ |
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I seem to be missing something here. I have difficulties following this thread, unless vital information has been removed.
How is the company IPETQ to work for now? I believe this was the original question.
I suppose they are like any other business, you do your job well, the company is pleased, the customer is pleased, and everyone is happy. You do not perform according to expectations, then you will be asked to leave. If the company does not fulful it's obligations as per the contract, then you will resign and find a new position. This is the usual situation with most of us.
IPETQ is a good company to work for, no worst than most and better than some. They pay on time, they supply reasonable accommodations, and have a number of different contracts. You are expected to work a full day ie. around 25-30 classes per week, with the rest of your time used for preparation, marking etc.
Most people here post under pen names, for obvious reasons. It is a futile exercise to try and guess who someone is IMHO.
Since you are using pen names, why all the beating around the bush, just say what you mean and who you are talking about. At present this thread does not give us any useful information which we can use to further our TEFL careers. Thank you. |
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Veritas vincit
Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 7 Location: Thailand
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:33 pm Post subject: IPETQ now |
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Tonetrippen has made a reasonable request for current information on IPETQ. British Tutor Kuwait & Specialist have given up to date corroborated information in response. middleastman has given himself away. Fred Bilbo is playing a nasty game.
I know you're desperate for ('native speaker') teachers at the moment Fred, but how can you sleep at night after that last post? Just two questions for you for now: how many teachers have been sacked without any notice in the last month? (hint; the answer is in double figures). How many teachers have been put on 'imposed leave' (a company term meaning enforced unpaid leave) in the last month? (do you need another hint Fred?).
IPETQ has a long history of poor & dishonest treatment of teaching staff. Prospective teachers in Kuwait deserve better. |
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Fred Bilbo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 52 Location: Kuwait
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:50 am Post subject: Not playing games |
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VV. Why didn't you post this information earlier. Why ask me about sackings at IPETQ? I only gave my opinion of the company in general as I see them. I don't "play games" I simply stated my opinion, You are free to do the same. Since I have no connection with IPETQ whatsoever, I am completely neutral.
Still in Kuwait, one thing is certain it's warm here. |
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Nixon Presley
Joined: 05 Aug 2006 Posts: 1
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:04 am Post subject: |
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As ex IPETQ, any person dealing with this company will have to be extremely careful.
OP asks for current info, regret cannot give any recent, looked on here for the 'apology' letter following the court case, seems to have been removed. Appreciate some of the prime movers of that shameful era have moved on, has the corporate culture changed ? Highly unlikely I imagine.
The lack of current/recent employees posting in a positive manner says it all. Though feel sure one or two will 'appear' shortly.
Clearly they are desperate for bodies. Wonder why ? |
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veiledsentiments
Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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Through the years they have always been doing a lot of hiring. It seems to be a feast or famine sort of place... depending on contracts. Lots of stories of poor management, but I have also talked to people whose experience was tolerable and they considered it a place that one could spend a year or two - 'foot in the door' kind of place.
Like many of this type of educational establishment, the key is to have low expectations.
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notsoalone
Joined: 03 Aug 2006 Posts: 2 Location: Middle East
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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Well it looks like one of their contracts with 10 or more native speakers could be lost to English Solutions. Watch this space for developments. |
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