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So, where's all the election comentary?
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MixtecaMike



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:29 am    Post subject: So, where's all the election comentary? Reply with quote

I checked out Notimex and Teleformula, but nothing here on Dave's yet?
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ls650



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been following the election closely, but I figured that this wasn't really the best forum to discuss it.
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lozwich



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was big news on the teev here last night Mike. I sometimes feel that all of Latin America is in a state of political flux, which I find exhausting and depressing to keep up with. Being Sunday night and all, I settled for the Friends marathon instead. Embarassed
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MELEE



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since Guy's deportation, the rest of us have learnt not to get involved in Mexican politics...





Laughing This is how rumors start right? Laughing
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TheLongWayHome



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the low-down:

Having the right to vote for a selection of political candidates is a system set up to give the people the illusion of choice. Nothing changes, no matter who's in power.

It is just an illusion, there is only one agenda--to keep the wealth of the country in the hands of the few. You'll see this in any 'developing' country. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer. The rest are kept in a loop where they have just enough money to get by.
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Samantha



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL Melee....but your tongue-in-cheek comments are well-timed. Under the Mexican Constitution foreigners don't have the right to involve themselves in the political affairs of the country. Many internet forums frequented by foreigners prohibit touching the subject, much less allowing posts expressing personal viewpoints about Mexican political affairs from a foreigners standpoint. One blog I follow has asked his readers not to post personal comments about Mexican politics.
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grahamcito



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:05 pm    Post subject: Political involvement Reply with quote

Samantha wrote:
Under the Mexican Constitution foreigners don't have the right to involve themselves in the political affairs of the country. Many internet forums frequented by foreigners prohibit touching the subject, much less allowing posts expressing personal viewpoints about Mexican political affairs from a foreigners standpoint.


True enough, but this raises some difficult questions.

First, what does "involve" mean? I can understand foreigners being banned from political activism, but political comment too? Such a broad interpretation of "involvement" encompasses censorship. If a foreign teacher passes comment on Mexico's education system (or public transport, or public health, etc, etc), couldn't that be interpreted as "involvement in politics"? And if a Mexican asks a foreigner what they think about an aspect of Mexican politics, are they supposed to refuse to answer and change the subject?

Secondly, does the Mexican constitution really apply to the Internet - including non-Mexican sites?
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Sgt Killjoy



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some expats usually will do anything to cling to what they have and some live in fear of deportation.In other countries, people have been threatened or actually deported for comments made on the internet. In fact, in some countries, even posting on a blacklist site like Teflwatch can get you criminal charges.

I personally think Mexican sites are going overboard. Mexico is not a banana republic.
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MixtecaMike



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, but apart from the fear of deportation, how did the elections go? Razz
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Samantha



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We'll know on Wednesday.
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grahamcito



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 6:55 pm    Post subject: Florida Reloaded Reply with quote

...or maybe sometime in September...
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Samantha



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wink Yes, as long as it is before the first week of December.....
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MELEE



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How's this for commentary

In the Mixteca there was 80% voter turn out. Pretty amazing, considering that in many communities in the Mixteca, more than 50% of the registered voters are living outside of the Mixteca.
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Samantha



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The election voter turn-out across Mexico was pretty impressive this election. That's good to see.

For updates in the 11th hour tally, click on this link and refresh it every 20 minutes or so.

http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/noticias.html

Oh and now this... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060706/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/mexico_elections_83

A good reason to leave Mexico City and go to the beach this weekend!

"Lopez Obrador supporters wept in the streets, saying they wouldn't let him be robbed of victory. At a news conference, Lopez Obrador urged his supporters to gather this weekend in downtown Mexico City, stirring fears he would mobilize massive protests that could lead to violence."
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TheLongWayHome



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's all the election commentary...

http://www.narconews.com/Issue42/article1972.html

http://www.correntewire.com/mexico_calderons_brother_in_law_wrote_the_vote_counting_software_and_its_already_been_hacked
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