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Has anyone made the transition from Asia (SE/NE) to LA?
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Sudz



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:49 am    Post subject: Has anyone made the transition from Asia (SE/NE) to LA? Reply with quote

Hey guys,

I have been teaching/traveling around Asia for the past decade or so. I am currently satisfied with my job here in Japan, though an considering making a transition to Latin America (Mexico, Ecuador, Columbia....wherever) sometime in the future. While I'm pretty happy with my job, and like aspects of Japan, I wouldn't say I feel a great connection to the culture, and there are aspects of living here that would likely put me off staying long term.

I am quite experienced, and have a significant amount of experience working in the private school context. I also have my MA TESOL, as well as TEFL certificate. I would like to continue working with either private schools, or at colleges/universities (should I leave Japan).

Anyways, has anyone (happily?) made the transition?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:01 am    Post subject: Re: Has anyone made the transition from Asia (SE/NE) to LA? Reply with quote

Sudz wrote:
Hey guys,

I have been teaching/traveling around Asia for the past decade or so. I am currently satisfied with my job here in Japan, though an considering making a transition to Latin America (Mexico, Ecuador, Columbia....wherever) sometime in the future. While I'm pretty happy with my job, and like aspects of Japan, I wouldn't say I feel a great connection to the culture, and there are aspects of living here that would likely put me off staying long term.

I am quite experienced, and have a significant amount of experience working in the private school context. I also have my MA TESOL, as well as TEFL certificate. I would like to continue working with either private schools, or at colleges/universities (should I leave Japan).

Anyways, has anyone (happily?) made the transition?


Why go through the hassles of relocating if all is reasonably good in Japan. I mean who's to say you will fare better in LA. Maybe just enjoy a couple holidays there, and perhaps consider it a place for retirement. Ecuador seems to rank highly in that regard.
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currentaffairs



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not apply for a job at a high end colegio in Colombia/South America? The lower end/mid tier jobs are probably not worth moving for (2-4 mil Colombian pesos) but something that pays quite a bit more may be attractive.

I really enjoyed my life after leaving Japan after six years!
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Sudz



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the input guys.

currentafairs - Might you apply for these jobs online? I'm certainly not looking to make the change anytime soon, though it's worth considering for later. Also, may I ask what made you leave Japan (provided it's not too personal). Perhaps you had simply had your fill.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I moved from Japan to Mexico in 1997/8 and I'm still here.

My situation was not quite the same as yours, but while I enjoyed Japan, it can be really hard to feel you fit there. In Mexico I'm a part of the community so it's easy to stay here long term.

Let me know if you want info about University teaching in the state of Oaxaca, Mexico.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The better jobs at well paying colegios/universities advertise on TES, on high school recruitment sites, higher ed sites, and everywhere. You can also use google to get a list of the better schools in Bogota or Cali (for example) and send your CV to them directly. If you have proper teaching credentials then you will have a shot at some of these jobs. Interviews are frequently done online/by phone and teachers are recruited from outside the country..

I had had enough of Japan and was ready to move. I also never saved whilst living there and so working in the Middle East is better for me. I have good memories (Tokyo was a blast) but now we move forward to other things..
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Sudz



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Much appreciated.

Yeah feeling like a perpetual outsider is one thing that makes me question staying here long term. I don't take offense to it, though Japanese seem innately more xenophobic than any other country I have visited in Asia. I generally am more positive than negative about it here, though that does wear on me at times.

Also, with regards to LA, it would be nice not being half-way across the world when visiting Canada. Saving also is a chore - as you mentioned currentaffairs.

I'll likely get back to you MotherF regarding Uni work in Oaxaca. I appreciate the offer.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At a Oaxacan university, a single person can easily save 50% or more of their salary, but the problem is the last few years haven't been kind to the Mexican peso.
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Sudz



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi MotherF. Might I ask what the typical salary is at one of these universities? (Edit: my bad, I can research that myself). Also, my situation is a bit odd, in that I have an MA TESOL, though lack a BA. The MA TESOL is legit - some UK universities allow entrance based on experience. Perhaps a problem?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Usually you are just asked to provide copies of your highest degree. I would suggest not mentioning lack of a BA again unless directly asked about it.
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Sudz



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers. I think this is usually the way to go. However, it didn't work out so well during one of my Tokyo interviews , as the interviewers (on the Japanese side) were completely perplexed as to how someone could get an MA without a BA. They had inquired during the interview about my BA, and weren't good at hiding their confusion after I had explained situation (in hindsight, I could have been more thorough). The foreign interviewer understood the situation, while he admitted in the follow-up email that it had a lot of sway in his colleague's decision.

Japanese do tend to be very 'by the book' though.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not having a BA could well lead to the situation that you described almost anywhere in the world for the better jobs. I have frequently had to write down or provide info about the details of my degrees before, during and after interviews. However, I am sure some places wouldn't be quite so stringent.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're right currentaffairs.

Fortunately, my current employer did not inquire about my (missing) BA, and I ended up getting the job.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FYI 2-4 million pesos/month is not a low-end job in Colombia; to the contrary, only the 'best' schools pay that much, with the exception of a very few international schools for 'real' teachers ie with home teaching license and experience. 600-1.5 million/month is closer to reality for low end.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow 600,000? Can one really live off of that?
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