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Imdramayu



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:39 am    Post subject: HCC -- hiring Americans only? Reply with quote

Is HCC only hiring Americans? Are there any Canadians working there? Would Canadians qualify? We can legally work in the US with a TN NAFTA visa. If one is well-qualified, this visa can be easily picked-up at any US border.

Or, has HCC made this "must be qualified to work in the US" rule to keep out a swarm of CNA-Q teachers as their ship sinks?

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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't really think it is any kind of conspiracy to keep out those "bee-like Canadians." Laughing It is just that typically an American or British or Canadian institution tends to hire their own if they can. Usually at the beginning they bring people from their home location... eventually expand to some experienced Gulf teachers... and if they succeed and grow, they finally expand to other native speaking nationalities.

I'm not sure how many teachers CNAQ has, but it is one of the few Gulf employers that only hired Canadians that I have ever heard about. (or have I just not heard about the others?)

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It's Scary!



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's good for the goose is good for the gander!

It's the CNAQ rule that came first!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With regard to race, age, or national origin, overseas employers have the power to discriminate. There are no US civil rights protections.

It's scary!

Shocked
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's Scary! wrote:
What's good for the goose is good for the gander!

It's the CNAQ rule that came first!


CNAQ can only hire Canadians - according to one of the teachers who works there - because it a college run by the government in Canada. They don't have private colleges like we do in the US. So CNAQ pays taxes to the Canadian gov't which the American colleges at Ed City don't have to do as they are all private schools.

That's why, according to my pal, they can only hire Canadians. HCCQ is not in the same situation. Or so I've been told. Maybe somebody can
add more info on this point??
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It's Scary!



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, yes. One thing that switched on people in the US military learn very quickly is:

1.) There are good reasons, and;

2.) There are real reasons.

Your pal is telling you a good reason.

It's my potty and I can cry if I want to!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:42 am    Post subject: Need a green card Reply with quote

That is what they told me.
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kellygreen



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CNAQ hires only Canadians because that is the agreement with the State of Qatar. Community Colleges in Canada are subsidized by the relevant provincial government, in this case Newfoundland & Labrador. Those who choose to remain resident for tax purposes may do so - the pay a certain amount of taxes (but not as much as if they were earning the same in Canada). Many who have contributed to government pensions for years choose this option in order to keep on funding their Canadian pension fund.

Those who choose to be non-resident for tax purposes (and therefore, pay no taxes either provinicial or federal) have to meet certain criteria set out by Revenue Canada. The college deducts taxes until and unless they get a copy of the letter stating to the contrary from Revenue Canada.

All Americans can live tax free abroad up to a certain $ amount. The last time I heard it as USD94000 per annum. If your salary and benefits exceed that amount, it MUST be reported to the IRS so far as I know.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:45 am    Post subject: CCQ as feeder school? Reply with quote

CCQ to have pacts with Education City varsities
Professor al-Naimi and professor al-Misnad shaking hands after signing the agreement
The Community College of Qatar (CCQ) will pursue articulation agreements with Education City universities, acting president Professor Ibrahim Saleh al-Naimi told Gulf Times. He was speaking yesterday on the sidelines of an articulation agreement signing ceremony between Qatar University and CCQ, a first for the latter.Texas A&M University at Qatar dean and CEO Dr Mark H Weichold, who is also on CCQ board, said an internal discussion has already taken place at his institution in this regard. “CCQ, launched in September 2010, has a total of 650 students, including 65% women,” professor al-Naimi said. The strength is expected to reach 850 by next semester. Around 10 students are to graduate in May by the end of next semester, he added.The CCQ is run under a partnership with the Houston Community College in the US, which helps by providing qualified faculty members as well as proven and education programmes.
CCQ is offering Associate in Arts (AA) and Associate in Sciences (AS) Degrees for transfer to university or Associate in Applied Sciences (AAS) Degree for job placement. AA degree graduates will have a chance to pursue their studies in arts, humanities, education, or business colleges at any university.
AS degree graduates can apply for further studies in science, engineering, health science, or information technology colleges at any university. A salient feature of CCQ is that it offers opportunities to students who did not have a chance to continue their studies due to reasons including low scores in high school.The CCQ is also seeking accreditation by Southern Association of Colleges and Schools, US, the same accreditation held by HCC and that is being sought by Qatar University.With accredited AA and AS Degree/Diploma curriculum articulated to local and national university curricula, students graduating from CCQ would be able to transfer to universities as third year students.
At the time of its launch, it was announced that CCQ plans to grow to 1,500 students in five years.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Faulty planning may be to blame for HCC Qatar campus's problems
By Jeannie Kever, Houston Chronicle Saturday, February 4, 2012

Male students register for classes at the HCC campus in Qatar. The government decided that, despite a signed contract, women would be taught separately. / HC

Houston and Texas

Accreditation a key concern for HCC campus in Qatar
As top officials at Houston Community College were collecting awards and publishing papers about their international ventures last year, their effort in Qatar was struggling with disagreements over accreditation, high faculty turnover and growing worries that the dean hired by the Qataris to lead the effort was working against them. The problems, detailed in emails and internal documents obtained through a public records request, raise questions about whether HCC was prepared for the ambitious foreign undertaking.

The dean chosen by the Qatari government was replaced in November by a veteran HCC employee, Butch Herrod, as part of an administrative overhaul. Enrollment has reached 750 students, less than two years after HCC signed an agreement with the Qatari government to create that nation's first community college. But students have not received HCC credits for their classes there - a cornerstone of the promises made when the partnership was announced - and for now it appears unlikely their coursework will transfer to the six U.S. universities with operations in Qatar. After months of student protests, a deal signed last month will allow graduates of the new community college to enroll in Qatar University.

Things were so bad last spring an HCC administrator in Qatar wrote HCC Chancellor Mary Spangler that Community College of Qatar, or CCQ, had become known as "the Crazy College of Qatar." From the beginning, Spangler said the Qatar contract was a way to earn money as state funding dropped and property tax revenues remained flat. HCC records indicate the college has collected $640,034 from the deal; it projects a profit of $4.6 million by 2015, slightly more than expected. Deputy Chancellor Art Tyler said in a recent interview that things now are running smoothly, and that misunderstandings are unavoidable in any international operation."The world is not exactly flat," he said. "It may have gotten smaller over the years, thanks to technology, but when you're dealing with people, with communities, you can't know everything."

Women taught separately

Among the things HCC didn't know until just before classes began in September 2010: The Qatari government decided male and female students would be educated separately, contrary to the five-year, $45 million contract, which called for coeducational classes. Former employees say that was just one of the surprises when they arrived in Qatar, ranging from delays in getting textbooks to worries over their exit visas."Things did not go smoothly at all," said Randi Perlman, hired to teach English to Arabic-speaking students. "There were a lot of issues that came up … that I think didn't need to happen."

Overseas campuses

With more than 70,000 students, HCC is one of the nation's largest community college systems, offering lower division academic classes and workforce training.Over the past decade, it has become increasingly involved in international ventures, as well, with projects in Vietnam, Saudi Arabia, Brazil and Qatar.Tyler said Qatar, located on the Persian Gulf, is a natural match for a Houston institution: energy industry ties, Qatar Airlines' nonstop flights and the presence of the Qatar Consulate here. Six U.S. universities have campuses there, including Texas A&M. The Methodist Hospital System has an office in the United Arab Emirates and is helping to build an ambulatory care center in the capital city of Doha.

Visa requirement

The first wave of HCC faculty and staff discovered after being hired - in some cases, after arriving in Doha - that their visas required them to get permission before leaving the country."That seemed to me to be a human-rights violation," said Jan McNeil, a veteran English teacher who had previously worked in Singapore. HCC offered interviews with three employees who worked in Qatar last year, all of whom said the visas posed no problem.


http://www.chron.com/default/article/Faulty-planning-may-be-to-blame-for-HCC-Qatar-3039161.php
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:08 am    Post subject: Re: HCC -- hiring Americans only? Reply with quote

Imdramayu wrote:
Is HCC only hiring Americans? Or, has HCC made this "must be qualified to work in the US" rule to keep out a swarm of CNA-Q teachers as their ship sinks?

Im


I was at the TESOL Arabia conference two weeks ago and spoke to some people who were at the job fair. They will not recruit other nationalities but you need to be a native-speaker or educated in an English speaking country from what was said. Like QU Foundation they don't really care about much experience. Both places are willing to take on people who have very little experience. QU will hire teachers with no experience. Think about it....

Hmmm

Quote:
Community College of Qatar: English as a Second Language Instructor
Position Name: English as a Second Language Instructor

Description:


The Community College of Qatar in Doha is seeking highly motivated and qualified professionals for the position of English as a Second Language (ESL) instructor. Job Summary: Provide the expertise and knowledge that support the college curriculum and programs. Establish courses following accepted higher education standards, teach students using a variety of effective methodologies and provide engagement and support activities that encourage student learning. The role of the Instructional Faculty encompasses teaching and learning, academic advising, professional development and institutional and community service.




The Community College of Qatar in Doha is seeking highly motivated and qualified professionals for the positio

Qualifications/ Experience:

Bachelor's degree in English, Foreign Languages, Linguistics, Anthropology, Business, Jurisprudence, and Education with certification in Bilingual Education/ESOL required. Master's degree preferred. Photocopy of college transcript showing degree conferred must be submitted with application for consideration. Minimum of one (1) year of college level teaching experience in an academic ESL program required and/or a combination of teaching and mentoring in ESOL and/or Bilingual activities or three (3) to ten (10) years of related work experience required. Experience with curriculum development. NOTE: Part-time experience will be counted as half of full-time experience; for example, two (2) years of part-time experience will equal one (1) year of full-time experience.


http://tesolarabia.org/conference/jobfair/jobView.php?id=41
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much does HCCQ pay for its language instructors? I have heard varying amounts. Do Texans get paid more? Can anybody advise?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mesquite wrote:
Do Texans get paid more?

Wouldn't that potentially get them into hot water with US law? Laughing

Someone that they know from Texas surely has a better chance than a stranger from say... Connecticut, but I would expect that they have a standard salary scale as all US educational institutions have based on credentials and experience.

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blastermill



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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They have hired a few Arab staff but still remain an American style institution. Also reported that they actually interviewed a British man. Let's see what happens.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/27/us/houston-community-college-helps-expand-educational-options-in-qatar.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CCQ turns out to be equal opportunities employer. Under the new dean, a national who replaced WWof the West (remember that chinwag) good things are happening. The staff is noCw mixed nationalities from all over the world. The base salary is 17,000. Only problem at the moment is housing, as new staff are temnporarily being housed in a hotel –so what else is new. Same thing elsewhere. But thanks to the new multinational approach and realistic staff requirements, things are looking up.

THE PLACE TO GO!!! so apply soon! A lot more respect for their teachers than what is going on in the Foundation Dept at QU!
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