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KidfromBrooklyn · Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 3:06 am Post subject: Bachelor Degree or Higher

I must lawd at the China job offers posted on the various ESL sites.

3500-5000 RMB per month. Degree required.

Any western student who is worth is salt and has earned and (paid for) his degree, who works for wages such as these has got to be some dumb bunny. In my humble opinion it is an insult of epic perportions to think that an individual educated in a western university would come to a chinese educational facility and do his best to transfer the knowledge of a language for such a pittance.

Get real China We can help you, but Nuttin for Nuttin.

mike w · Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 4:15 am Post subject:

So don't come to China. No problem.

PS - maybe the use of a dictionary would improve your own English skills.

Crippler · Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 141 Location: Dongguan

Maybe people have reasons other than "money" to come here. Many young grads like the idea of travelling to see new parts of the world and experience other cultures. Not so bad for a new grad to work and experience this culture for a year or so.

Steppenwolf · Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 1769

KidfromBrooklyn · Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 7:41 am Post subject: China far from DEVELOPING

China is far from Developing status. This is the argument that holds no water these days. Man in space? plans for the moon? end of story. Every country has poor regions. The powers that be say developing inorder to sway world opinon to keep them from behaving responsibly. If you want to suck it up that's your problem.

Those that say do not come to China? WTF man? who are you? I have EARNED the right to say now what I wish for I have been here over ten years own a s-it load of property and my wife is a Chinese, and believe me, not a boot licking subserviant slug but a cunning and clever business bit-ch that can out wit the best of ya'all.

Money is the reason people persue degrees in the first place. The need to move forward and better oneself, physically, spiritually and Financially. Those who buy into the BS of coming to China to drink tea and learn culture is fine if your are touring around. If you come here to work as a graduated professional and foreign expert and take a job for 4000 RMB you have been had.

Chinese businessmen are among the best in the world. They were not brought up with Chrisitian values instilled in there minds since before they could walk. They will get you if they can, like shove the umbrella where the sun woun't shine and open it if you let them, and if some foreigner like steppenwolf believes there hogwash then they win.

Be yourselves teachers and get what you have rightfully earned and deserve. PM me if you have a problem with what I say.

People need to know the TRUTH ABOUT CHINA ESL TEACHING!!!!!

Not to misunderstand. Do your job, enjoy all that China has to offer, but don't be taken for a fool while doing it.

Shan-Shan · Joined: 28 Aug 2003 Posts: 1074 Location: electric pastures

mike w · Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 8:01 am Post subject:

KidfromBrooklyn · Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 8:47 am Post subject: TRUTH IS TRUTH

The people who come here to work must know the TRUTH.

The truth is that they at 4000RMB per month ARE BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF!!!

Do you work for that? do you work at all? You are not a teacher so why do you even offer your 2 cents. Well anyway thanks.

Why would anyone be HAPPY WITH BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF?

The controversy generated may MAKE PEOPLE OPEN THERE EYES AND SEE THE TRUTH. About the SNAKES that are there prospective schools.

After being here so long tell me you don't know the Chinese you work with have attitudes. The part that newbies don't know or understand is that they do infact have very bad attitudes toward laowei and being nieve, also not understanding the language they ARE UNAWARE OF THE SITUATION!!!

OK OK OK I can retract "boot licking slug" how bout instead " lip touching the butts of other people."

Now lets work together and let new people know the truth so that they can make there own educated evaluation of the job they may or may not be considering. Don't KOW to the man behind the bamboo curtain.

sheeba · Joined: 17 Jun 2004 Posts: 1123

Bayden · Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Posts: 988

KidfromBrooklyn · Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 10:16 am Post subject: Yes

Yes I am a teacher. In China since 1997. Have taught all age groups. I find that I enjoy 3rd and 4th grade students the most as they are the most willing to learn at the ages of about 9-12.

If wishing to alert the public to the craftyness of the Chinese laoban or business owner is trolling than so be it. Or is it the use of capitol letters that causes such a response. Or perhaps you are one ot those foreigners that work as liason between the Chinese and the foreign teachers. It is your job to discredit those who bring the truth into the light.

In addition if so many seem to support modern day indentured servantry than I guess too that is none of my bees wax. I should open a mill since so many sheep are there to fleece.

They are laughing all the way to the Bank.

7969 · Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 5782 Location: Coastal Guangdong

my troll-o-meter burst into flames the first time i opened this thread today.

mike w said it best..... in his last line. others said it well, but not nearly as well as mike

7969

KidfromBrooklyn · Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 10:18 am Post subject:

Great Avitar Bayden!!!!

mike w · Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 10:24 am Post subject:

vikdk · Joined: 25 Jun 2003 Posts: 1676

mike w - rumour has it that you've made a packet through the petrochemical industry- so how would you feel if those back-packers hit your industry - and you found the competition forced your wage down to that ol' 4,000 level again. Anways that ain't ever gonna happen - so carry on and enjoy your view from ontop of that fence Laughing