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delphian-domine



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Out of curiosity, what would an experienced native speaker earn per hour (gross) as a freelancer in Berlin?

I've absolutely no intention of ever moving there, but I'm curious to see if it's dramatically higher than in Poland.
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Shaytess



Joined: 12 Oct 2006
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Location: Berlin

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say the Berlin average is around 16 Euros per 45-minute class hour, with a pretty wide range that probably looks something like this:

-teaching kids/after school tutoring - 8-10 Euros
-the big chain schools - 11-14 Euros
-average business English schools or private schools for adults - 14-18 Euros
-universities - 18-25 Euros
-your own 1-on-1 clients - 15-30 Euros per hour
-your own business clients (not very likely in Berlin but maybe if you have connections) - 30-60 Euros per hour

Cities in the east such as Leipzig and Dresden have even lower averages (12-14 Euros?) while Frankfurt, Munich, Hamburg, Stuttgart, Cologne, etc. which have a lot of better-paid corporate teaching work would be much higher (20 Euros?) - commensurate with cost of living and the number of qualified native speakers available.

How does that compare to Poland?
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Shimokitazawa



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shay,

What are the chances of getting a full time university position, either contract or tenured?

I'm not interested in free lance teaching or working with rug rats.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What are the chances of getting a full time university position, either contract or tenured?


Europe is not at all like Asia in this respect.

I've worked in European universities for a decade, and have many contacts in German ones.

To land a full time and or tenured university job, you would need:
1. Advanced related qualifications (related MA++)
2. Pretty decent German
3. Local contacts who know your work and specifically want you over other applicants; because there will be competition for the job.
4. Related experience teaching European students

Short-term contracts to teach a course or two exist here and there; I assume that's what Shay's talking about. But a full-time and/or tenured gig would have really high barriers to entry in this part of the world.


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Shaytess



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:21 am    Post subject: University Jobs Reply with quote

I agree with Spiral78 - university teaching jobs in Germany are not the norm, neither are full-time jobs of any sort. I would guesstimate that perhaps 90-95% of professional English teachers work as freelancers here. University teaching, by the way, is also often freelance work in Germany. I'd also say that anyone with a full-time position of any sort likely worked their way up/in by starting as a freelancer and impressing the bosses over many years.
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