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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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what on earth is the appeal of the Emirates?


A few weeks ago there was a thread (now locked) on the appeal - or lack thereof - of the Emirates vis a vis Saudi Arabia. One of our male posters cited "s**" as an attraction of Dubai. I found that comical, but maybe that's just me.
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sheikh radlinrol



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cleopatra wrote:
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what on earth is the appeal of the Emirates?


A few weeks ago there was a thread (now locked) on the appeal - or lack thereof - of the Emirates vis a vis Saudi Arabia. One of our male posters cited "s**" as an attraction of Dubai. I found that comical, but maybe that's just me.


Why do you find it ''comical'' that male posters see s** as one of Dubai's attractions?
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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I said 'comical' I meant in a pathetic sort of way.

You can't be doing too well if you dream of Natashas...
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Van Norden



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

on the 'KSA v UAE' thread I wrote:
It's a bit like choosing between Brave New World and 1984. In Dubai you've got sex, soma and the feelies to distract you. In Saudi there's no compensation for the bleakness. Except for the money, of course.

Are you referring to this, Cleo? Why not get me on the drugs charge too? That'd be a double-whammy indictment: lecherous sex pervert and junkie!

They'll stone ya when you're there all alone. But I would not feel so all alone, Everybody must get stoned.
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sheikh radlinrol



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

S** can, of course, be bought in the Magic Kingdom. Her Majesty probably isn't aware of this since she will never have taught Saudi males.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You can't be doing too well if you dream of Natashas...
What do you dream about? Hot water bottles and knitting woollen socks?

Anyway, he's talking about having it, not dreaming it.
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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That'd be a double-whammy indictment: lecherous sex pervert and junkie!


Nothing 'perverted' about being deprived.


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she will never have taught Saudi males.


Actually I have (taught Saudi males that is). Not that one needs to have done so in order to be aware of the market in such commodities here.

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What do you dream about? Hot water bottles and knitting woollen socks?


Well, since you ask, the substance of my dreams was displayed in pictorial form on this very board some months ago. You may recall that some of our male posters didn't much approve.

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he's talking about having it, not dreaming it.


Odd distinction, since for a few rial anyone can 'have it'.
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Van Norden



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wasn't really referring specifically to the evil dirty filthy act itself, and I never mentioned Natashas (I think that was Cleo.)

Here's a 'CliffsNotes' explanation for my Brave New World references:
sex = normal and legal relations between men and women
soma = alcohol
feelies = cinema and theatre and concerts
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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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sex = normal and legal relations between men and women


Seriously though, why do you need to go to Dubai to 'get' that? And before you mention segregation, it's worth pointing out that prostitution and, indeed, s** between unmarried individuals are also crimes in doo-buy. The laws may not be strictly applied, but then they're not always enforced in KSA either. So the 'legal relations' thing doesn't really change.
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007



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

globalnomad2 wrote:
Otherwise if you are a US entity hiring from the US, you open yourself to civil and possibly criminal lawsuits if your ad is discriminatory.

Come on Globalnomad 2, it seems you are not living in the land of Uncle Sam!
I knew several cases of 'US' citizens of Arab/Muslim origins who were discriminated against, especially those working or who applied to work with Pentagon or any company which is considered to be 'sensitive'?

Forget about 'equal opportunity', it does not exist 100%, all is subjected to human interpretation of the meaning of 'equality'!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You would think that by now I'd have grown immune to Abba's inability to read English but he still manages to surprise me.

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I knew several cases of 'US' citizens of Arab/Muslim origins who were discriminated against,


If you'd read the discussion properly, you'd have seen that nobody here claimed that US hiring practices are neccessarily free of discrimination, but that US law requires that their advertising be just that.

Too complex for you?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...and also that consistent departures on the part of employers from labor laws in the States are subject to civil and criminal lawsuits, just like in the UAE (I don't know about KSA).

BTW I shouldn't bother my pretty little head about this, and I'm too lazy to do the backtracking research, but how did 007 get his ABBA appellation? Does he listen to Dancing Queen between prayer times?


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007



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Van Norden wrote:
Here's a 'CliffsNotes' explanation for my Brave New World references:
sex = normal and legal relations between men and women

It seems your 'CliffsNotes' on the definition of Sex is un-clear and miss-leading!
It depends on what you mean by 'legal relations'?

Sex is like sword, it can be legal and illegal.

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You would think that by now I'd have grown immune to Abba's inability to read English but he still manages to surprise me.

Don't be surprised! My surprises are harmless and peaceful.

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If you'd read the discussion properly, you'd have seen that nobody here claimed that US hiring practices are neccessarily free of discrimination, but that US law requires that their advertising be just that.

Too complex for you?

Do you teach your students to write the word 'necessarily' with two 'c'.
Come on little princess, you know very well I am not an English teacher, and nobody cares about my English mistakes. So, please concentrate on your mistakes before correcting the others.

Too complex!!!


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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...and also that consistent departures on the part of employers from labor laws in the States are subject to civil and criminal lawsuits, just like in the UAE (I don't know about KSA).


These laws exist on paper in KSA too, though how much they mean in practice is, as always and everywhere, another story entirely.

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how did 007 get his ABBA appellation?


You mean you're not aware that you are in the presence of the poster formerly known as ABBA? Not sure how he came by the name, just as I'm not sure why his current incarnation has been tolerated so long...
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007



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

globalnomad2 wrote:
BTW I shouldn't bother my pretty little head about this, and I'm too lazy to do the backtracking research, but how did 007 get his ABBA appellation? Does he listen to Dancing Queen between prayer times?

No, I listen to the 'Planet of the East' Oum Khaltoum.

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If you'd read the discussion properly, you'd have seen that nobody here claimed that US hiring practices are neccessarily free of discrimination, but that US law requires that their advertising be just that.
Too complex for you?

Do you teach your students to write the word 'necessarily' with two 'c'.
Come on little princess, you know very well I am not an English teacher, and nobody cares about my English mistakes. So, please concentrate on your mistakes before correcting the others.

Too complex!!!
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