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Xian Jiaotong - Liverpool University - any information?
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gregmcd101



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:54 am    Post subject: Salary? Reply with quote

Just what are the HUGE salarys people talk about? I tried looking on their site but my computer is having a tiff with adobe reader...
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Tabula Rasa



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Salary? What salary? Reply with quote

gregmcd101 wrote:
Just what are the HUGE salarys people talk about? I tried looking on their site but my computer is having a tiff with adobe reader...


The salaries vary, depending on how much chapstick you have strategically placed on SJ's sit-upon. The advertised rates and the actual rates don't match up, and the annual increases are not based on seniority, experience, or even how well you have done during the year.

The whole process at the ELC at XJTLU is opaque. More transparency, perhaps even a committee, would be welcome.

Which brings us to the most disturbing part of the ELC: lack of teacher input. I was just interviewed at a University where TEACHERS made up the search committee, and the questions (and answers) were brutally honest. I appreciate that MUCH more than the smoke-and-mirrors method at XJTLU.
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DaXueSheng



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not everything in China is as it seems. Milk powder or universities, the label means nothing. Who writes the salary checks? I'd safely bet that the University of Liverpool does not pay one single salary anywhere in Suzhou. Not even SJ's sit upon.
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cj750nomad



Joined: 11 Oct 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

many of these programs work like franchises.... where the company pays a fee for the use of a name...and the payment of employees come from the money generated from the program on ground in china.. if legit (and by that I mean issued frm the legit uni).. usually u r paid in foreign funds.. as the money has to go through accounting and then is dispersed...again usually through a bank acct...
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DaXueSheng



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomad,

try an F800 ST...

True, licencing is an option for some China entrants. But actually, I was indirectly pointing out the Chinese use of western names... like King's College, Oxford etc. that have no relationship to the ones we are familiar with. I recently discovered that XXXX Canadian College had nothing to do with Canada except that the owner had travelled there sometime in the past. Off on a tangent... oops.

I was just wondering if the Suzhou uni thread was a similar thingy.
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cj750nomad



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice....haven't ever tooled a Beemer... but would be willin if u ever come through my way.
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Sallyman



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:38 am    Post subject: Back Reply with quote

I'd like to thank everyone on this thread. One of my friends is working at XJTLU now, and the STORIES are incredible.

I can't say how glad I am that we have this community to warn each other.

We need a UNION!

Laughing
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SnoopBot



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:17 am    Post subject: Re: Back Reply with quote

Sallyman wrote:
I'd like to thank everyone on this thread. One of my friends is working at XJTLU now, and the STORIES are incredible.

I can't say how glad I am that we have this community to warn each other.

We need a UNION!

Laughing


How bad are the stories? Was my posting and information (above) deemed correct?
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losing_touch_two



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, current information would be appreciated.
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Sallyman



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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 2:10 am    Post subject: Current Events Reply with quote

Just heard back: nothing new. SJ is still playing the puppet master and the sycophants are still kissing ass.

This is all second-hand info, but it sounds like a crappy place to work.

I found a cool place to work, and my boss is really encouraging about us giving input into the program. I'm really expanding my horizons!
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losing_touch_two



Joined: 19 Feb 2009
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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 2:14 am    Post subject: Re: Current Events Reply with quote

Sallyman wrote:
Just heard back: nothing new. SJ is still playing the puppet master and the sycophants are still kissing ass.

This is all second-hand info, but it sounds like a crappy place to work.

I found a cool place to work, and my boss is really encouraging about us giving input into the program. I'm really expanding my horizons!


I guess I can be glad that I was not successful in my application attempt!
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jakesog



Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:06 am    Post subject: Re: Current Events Reply with quote

Sallyman wrote:
Just heard back: nothing new. SJ is still playing the puppet master and the sycophants are still kissing ass.

This is all second-hand info, but it sounds like a crappy place to work.

I found a cool place to work, and my boss is really encouraging about us giving input into the program. I'm really expanding my horizons!



Hi

Could you elaborate a bit more on your comments on the first sentence. I plan to apply for a job in xjtlu but wonder whether it is good. Thanks.
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Hansen



Joined: 13 Oct 2008
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Location: central China

PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Tabula Rasa wrote:
My advice: GET IT IN WRITING. Whatever you are promised, if it's not in the contract, you are NOT going to get it.
Solid advice for just about everything job-related in China."

I have not found the written or spoken word of some Chinese bosses to be of any value. A lie is a lie is a lie, written or spoken.
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YankeeDoodleDandy



Joined: 17 Aug 2004
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Location: Xi'an , Shaanxi China

PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And , That's the truth !!!
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any updated info?
thanks!
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