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Kaspar Hauser



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:39 am    Post subject: American University of Iraq? Reply with quote

There's a new posting for the American U. of Iraq. Does anyone know what the salary is? As any veteran of this field knows, normally when the salary is conspicuously absent from a job posting it means exactly one thing: the salary sucks. But to get people to work in Iraq, I would think the salary would have to be pretty good. Does anyone know anything?


http://www.eslcafe.com/joblist/index.cgi?read=16880
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windstar



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After Turkish army's incursion/offensive in the region against some terror-minded people, it proves to me that the place is very volatile to take the risk. You never know what happens next. If peshmerga and Turkish army decide to exchange some 'bullets', you can be a victim too.
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Extraordinary Rendition



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably about as safe as Washington, DC, on a very late Saturday night. Avoid at all costs unless they supply armored vehicle and armed escorts, similar to those for U.S. officials in DC.
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Kaspar Hauser



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the advice, but I'm a big boy and can make my own decisions.
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hawlermonkey



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suli is a nice city - the cultural capital of Kurdistan and the most liberal place in the region - couples drink together in coffee shops etc. Much nicer than where I am. There are some stunning mountains nearby and Lake Dokan is nice. The new campus will be impressive when it is finished - you should be able to save about USD 2400 a month in this position. Wouldn't be that bad - much better than Saudi or Kuwait.
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Extraordinary Rendition



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks for the advice, but I'm a big boy and can make my own decisions.


If you were referring to my last post, it was tongue-in-cheek! That was my point in response to the post before my last - to just use common sense and stay alert, as one would anywhere other than suburbia... (DC hasn't become a war zone since my last visit, has it? Does anyone have any information on this? Very Happy )
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr Rendition... on the net one can't see the tongue in the cheek. I would take care trying to use humor (??) if that is what it is on a topic like this. People need advice based on experience, not attempts at a joke. Especially with a screen name like yours.

Thus far no one seems to know the pay scale. Kasper... you may have to apply to find out.

VS
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Extraordinary Rendition



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My, gosh! I would have thought that those wishing to teach a language would be well aware of context. My post was clearly (not?) in the context of the previous post. Really, has DC become that dangerous???

VS, you have an interesting point, I hadn't considered my screename in context Laughing Laughing Laughing !
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Extraordinary Rendition wrote:
Probably about as safe as Washington, DC, on a very late Saturday night. Avoid at all costs unless they supply armored vehicle and armed escorts, similar to those for U.S. officials in DC.

This was what you posted. There was no response except that the OP felt he didn't need your advice on protecting himself. From where do you interpret any comment about the danger levels of DC other than your own? Laughing

I lived in the DC area for years and I think I would prefer Sulimania to 90% of DC... and feel safer... but that is not the topic. Cool

VS
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Extraordinary Rendition



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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From where do you interpret any comment about the danger levels of DC other than your own?


Well, I assumed (ouch, I hate when I do that) a certain (minimal) level of general knowledge about DC (hence my later [honest] question about its recently having become a war zone [without any public announcement]), including on Saturday nights. There can be a certain level of fun; but, as you have pointed out, that is not the topic...
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007



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

veiledsentiments wrote:
I lived in the DC area for years and I think I would prefer Sulimania to 90% of DC... and feel safer... but that is not the topic.

You mean Sulaymaniyah in Iraq?
Because Sulimania is in Koinadugu, in Sierra Leone, Africa (town of Baba Maraboo) Laughing
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Extraordinary Rendition



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I lived in the DC area for years and I think I would prefer Sulimania to 90% of DC... and feel safer...


Quote:
From where do you interpret any comment about the danger levels of DC other than your own?

Well, I wasn't concerned about the danger levels of DC, until now (see first quote, above).

I'm worried about that free-fire zone in the northeast U.S. Anybody got any info?
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

007 wrote:
veiledsentiments wrote:
I lived in the DC area for years and I think I would prefer Sulimania to 90% of DC... and feel safer... but that is not the topic.

You mean Sulaymaniyah in Iraq?
Because Sulimania is in Koinadugu, in Sierra Leone, Africa (town of Baba Maraboo) Laughing

Stop being a pompous a s s 007. Transliteration is not now nor ever has been consistent. You can stick all those "y's" you seem to love wherever you wish. I'm sure many of us here have suggestions on where.

Check out the ad link. It seems that the people in Iraq don't agree with your spelling at all.

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middleastman



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:11 am    Post subject: spelling Reply with quote

I would tend to agree. The English translation of arabic words with "y" or "i" is indeed an area of much discussion.

"Hawally" or "Hawalli" is just one example in Kuwait.
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hawlermonkey



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These are some of the spellings on road signs on the way to 'Suli':-

Suleimani
Sulaymaniah
Suleimania
Sleimani
Sulaymaniyah
Sulimania

I don't think anyone has officially made their mind up about the correct spelling of 'Suli'. It's just a tranliteration of the Kurdish/Arabic script. Irbil, Erbil, Arbil, and in Kurdish to make it more confusing, Hawler, Hewler are all the same place aswell.

I do know that the airport signs say Sulaymaniyah and Erbil, but that doesn't prove anything because most of the signs have errors.

The students here are extremely flippant about spelling and often spell an English word several different ways in the same essay. This maybe a result of Kurdish spelling not being fully standardised/standardized. The great bard himself, Shakespeare, wasn't consistent with the spelling of his own name either.
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