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NYCESOL11211



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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cvmurrieta



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:35 am    Post subject: Re: The New York City Thread Reply with quote

NYCESOL11211 wrote:
Do look into the NYC Teaching Fellows if teaching kids is your thing.


Thanks for this suggestion. I will definitely keep it in mind for next year. I plan to teach in Japan until then. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:34 pm    Post subject: NYC Reply with quote

Hi. I know your post is 18 mos. old now, but I've just come aboard to gain info. as I make a decision to pursue ESL cert. I wanted to tell you that I really appreciate the info. I'm considering a program at the Tenn. Foreign Lang. Institute. But, I'm almost 53 and have some scars from past ed./career pursuit. Have a BA but no teaching experience. I'm interested in adult learners. Short-term contracts appeal to me. I possibly would pursue a MA if I really liked the field. My fantasy is to spend 6 mos. in NYC, just for the experience. I would gain some experience here at home first, then look around at different parts of the States. So, if you're still active on the forum and have anymore wisdom to share, I'd appreciate it.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen some really interesting teaching gigs in NYC on idealist.org ...
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NYCESOL11211



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:27 pm    Post subject: Re: NYC Reply with quote

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Deicide



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a native New Yorker, it is beyond me why anyone would want to live and work in NYC.... Shocked
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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timothypfox



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deicide, the reason I came to New York and got stuck here 8-9 years later is that it is a candy store for those wishing to build up a professional career. The opportunities to study different things, and get employed at a wage that will help pay off student loans are great. The downsides are the politics, the garbage, the crowds, and the how in the world can I raise children here question. I struggle with these issues daily - but my student loan debt is such that moving anywhere else in this economy could be volatile and stop me from paying things off. More rural areas in the states or in Canada do not have as many teaching positions period. If you do come to New York, come with lots of savings because it will take time and money to get set up here, but once you get set up you will likely do well professionally (despite the politics). The real question is after building up your career etc. if New York is good long term... and can you get out mid-career in the slumped economy...
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seriously though when I did coffee shop teaching in NYC,

On a less serious note, I've been teaching in the Netherlands for five years...where a coffee shop is something very different - and not conducive to effective teaching or learning Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
it isn't hard to make $60 or more an hour from Samsung princesses.


What's that? A boombox on a throne?
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although no one has asked for it for a while, I feel the need to dish it (and this is the most appropriate place to do it) considering the current economic climate. These are some of the things you really should consider before coming to New York City.

CONS for ESL teachers in NYC:
- prohibitive rent
- relative low pay at conversation schools versus rent
- abundant privates but difficult to keep them
- college jobs mostly sessional
- too many qualified teachers with Master's degrees
- public school work abundant but teachers feel like scapegoats, no-child left behind feels like a utopian dream, impending cut backs doomful
- too chaotic to raise a family
- an extremely do-it yourself city (fine only when you learn to know what to do)
- stressful (see above)
- tourist sites swamped with lines, crowds, and prohibitive prices (except museums)
- dirty and even with park space - many areas have limited park space
- homeless problem
- people generally get along but occasionally discrimination
- parts of the city that no one wants to go for safety reasons
- feels like a rat race and everyone wants to know how much education you have and what your career is
- socio-classism tends to be more of a problem than race (but often these two issues are blurred...)
- great place to study but hard to work and have friends at the same time....

PROS for ESL teachers in NYC:
- variety of college and training programs (some are reasonably affordable) to upgrade skills and change skills offered weekends and evenings to allow you to work and go to school
- little age discrimination in terms of who will / will not hire you for work (most people don't care as long as you are skilled and able to do the job)
- little gender discrimination in ESL teaching field as well
- many types of work available for ESL teachers
- steady influx of ELL immigration
- alternative certification programs at schools provide a fast track to building up an ESL career
- good round the clock and reasonably affordable public transit system
- you can buy anything you need
- tremendously multi-linguistic and multi-cultural
- most areas are safe with many police on the street
- public school teachers union (UFT) quite powerful
- economic and political center - can pick up a new career with the proper training and eventually find work
- intercultural dating the norm
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El_Mero_Mero



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,

Assuming you teach at Zoni, ALCC, or another one of the big names, and assuming you make between $15-$20 per hour: What is your shift like? Are schools giving out 8 hour shifts?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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El_Mero_Mero



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank You for the info. on the hours. I actually live in Queens about 3-5 blocks from Zoni and ALCC territory.
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El_Mero_Mero



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do the companies like ALCC, Zoni, NY Language Center, etc. have set curriculums and coursework or do they expect you to make your own curriculum and lesson plans?
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