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passionateteacher
Joined: 23 Dec 2009 Posts: 30
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:05 am Post subject: Tips for teaching Kuwaiti 12th grade boys poetry |
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How is everyone?
I wanted to know if there were any suggestions that anyone had for teaching Kuwaiti boys poetry. The school that I am currently teaching uses the American Cirriculum. The 12th grade consists of boring analyzing of poetry from the 16-18th century. Most of it is European literature. The boys seem to understand the work without a problem but get distracted easily and start to talk while the teacher is talking. I have taught a class and arrived here in the middle of the school year. They seem to do this with all of their teachers. I observed a class yesterday and the boys behaved very badly with their regular teacher. What advice can anyone offer. I have gone online to research tips on making the teaching approach more engaging and interesting, but it is difficult to hold their attention. What should I do? |
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Starfell
Joined: 24 Mar 2010 Posts: 138
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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Leave. |
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passionateteacher
Joined: 23 Dec 2009 Posts: 30
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:44 pm Post subject: Not a Quitter |
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How are you Starfell?
First of all, I am not a quitter. I was told that the boys were very good in the beginning of the semester, until they went on a 10 day excursion. Then they came back very animated. They are very smart and digest the material well. I think that they just get bored easily with the context. After all European/American literature is not the most exciting thing in the world.
If I had that attitude to just leave, then I would not be a teacher. There is always something about your job that you will not like. However when one is able to overcome these challenges and your students learn it makes you feel good inside. It also improves your performance as a teacher.
I am looking for more positive open-ended suggestions please. |
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Starfell
Joined: 24 Mar 2010 Posts: 138
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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All kids ''are good at the start of the semester''. Don't be mislead, no field trip turned your gang into monsters- its poor leadership and lack of discipline from the top.....
Try using songs with them. I once used Dire Straits 'Romeo and Juliet'' as a lead in to the famous scene, and had them re write it in their own words.
European poetry is not boring...................btw.
''Poetry is just the evidence of life. If your life is burning well, poetry is just the ash.''
L. Cohen |
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15yearsinQ8
Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 462 Location: kuwait
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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I knew a Math teacher at ATIS HS (he's Palestinian AMerican and in Hawaii now) who gave out all A's and B's for Alegeba II and Pre Calculus covering only 4 chapters in a 24 chapter book for the year.
He did a few problems on the board, made the students copy them, then let the class do what they like for the other 30 minutes of the class.
No kidding.
Absolutely no joke. Google him or ask the ATIS survivors, his sir name is shared by a Hezb leader in Lebanon.
They paid him really well. |
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15yearsinQ8
Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 462 Location: kuwait
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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Captain, Oh my Captain.....
Don't expect a 'Dead Poets Society' moment.....
come to think of it , ripping pages from their books.....THAT would get their attention
anyway, leave ATIS now - don't ever put it on your resume should you want another job in Kuwait |
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passionateteacher
Joined: 23 Dec 2009 Posts: 30
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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:54 am Post subject: |
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To Starfell:
This is a wonderful idea, but at my school music as part of the cirriculum is not allowed. Ok all European poetry is not boring, but most of it is. If it is not boring then some of it is downright SICK. Have you ever tried to teach international students the inner meaning behind "A Rose for Emily". I had to in the US and it was not a pretty explanation!
15yearsinQ8: Are you sure you have been in Kuwait 15 years? I was hoping for a very in depth response from you! Your response had absolutely nothing to do with my original question! You went off a deep tangent from the original scope of the focus of the conversation.
I hope I can get some positive feedback from this post. I like your idea Starfell but unfortunately I am not allowed to use music. Do you have any other suggestions! |
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15yearsinQ8
Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 462 Location: kuwait
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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Dear passionateteacher,
"Ok all European poetry is not boring, but most of it is. If it is not boring then some of it is downright SICK. Have you ever tried to teach international students the inner meaning behind "A Rose for Emily"."
Hmm, Faulkner was a European and "A Rose for Emily" is a poem? Actually, Emily was what you might call "passionate."
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John |
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veiledsentiments
Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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I do believe that Ms passionate teacher asked for suggestions of poems for 12th year Kuwaiti boys...
She was using "A Rose for Emily" as an example of a poem that DIDN'T work while in the US...
Sorry I can't help you... I never even attempted it other than the use of some song lyrics. This was accidental as they had asked me to help them write down the words. I let them choose the songs... within limits, of course. It could be done without playing the actual music in class.
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Starfell
Joined: 24 Mar 2010 Posts: 138
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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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So you are in Al Ruya, I return to my first comment. Leave, and go somewhere where they don't think music whips up the devil in ya......there are plenty of ''normal'' schools out there. |
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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Dear veiledsentiments,
"A Rose for Emily" isn't a poem; it's a short story by William Faulkner.
http://www.moonstar.com/~acpjr/Blackboard/Common/Stories/RoseEmily.html
How about a ballad, a heroic one, such as Sohrab and Rostam:
Rostam is Iran�s greatest mythological hero, a Persian Hercules, magnificent in strength and courage. As re-counted in the tenth-century Book of Kings (Shahnameh) by the poet Ferdowsi, he was an indomitable force in ancient Persia for five hundred years, undergoing many trials of combat, cunning, and endurance. Although Rostam served a series of often-fickle kings, he was always his own man, committed to the greater good of Iran. His adventures are some of the best loved of all Persian narratives and remain deeply resonant in Iranian culture.
Rostam: Tales of Love & War from Persia�s Book of Kings begins with the birth of Rostam�s father Zal and ends with Rostam�s death. The tales tell of the love between Zal and Rostam�s mother, the Kaboli princess Rudabeh; of Rostam�s miraculous birth, aided by the magical bird Simorgh; of Rostam�s youth and the selection of his trusty horse Rakhsh; of his affair with Princess Tahmineh, the birth of their son Sohrab, and, after Sohrab grows into a mighty warrior himself, the tragic confrontation between father and son. The tales conclude with Rostam�s war against demons, his seven trials, his rescue of Prince Bizhan, and finally his battle, both intellectual and physical, with the ambitious and religiously driven prince Esfandyar."
Regards,
John |
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Starfell
Joined: 24 Mar 2010 Posts: 138
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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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Got it.
Beatles lyrics - ''She's leaving home'' , is perfect, oh and casually mention as they leave class ''this is a song, you tube available''
-oh and also, it's european 'poetry'.
''Wednesday morning at five o'clock as the day begins
Silently closing their bedroom door
Leaving the note that she hoped would say more
She goes downstairs to the kitchen clutching her handkerchief
Quietly turning the backdoor key
Stepping outside she is free.''
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Starfell,
But would they be able to relate?
"Stepping outside she is free.''
Regards,
John |
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Starfell
Joined: 24 Mar 2010 Posts: 138
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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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Perhaps if they were a teacher, with approx 55 days to go before freedom, they might.
Now, how do I make Shakespeare interesting to the same age group?? |
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