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Banner41



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All Spam links....move on. Nothing to see here.
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3701 W.119th



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yahoo Answers as a source?

Tremendous.
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Big Worm



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a "good" source that says subject teachers (not esl) will now need a teaching cert (B.ed pgce, etc) and five years teaching experience to get a visa teaching a subject. My source is the administration (chinese and laowai) of a private hs who have confirmed this with the local psb.

Am interested what this will do to salaries. Possible a lot of subject teachers that don't qualify will move on. Hopefully I will make a ton more kuai next year.
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toteach



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big Worm wrote:
I have a "good" source that says subject teachers (not esl) will now need a teaching cert (B.ed pgce, etc) and five years teaching experience to get a visa teaching a subject. My source is the administration (chinese and laowai) of a private hs who have confirmed this with the local psb.

Am interested what this will do to salaries. Possible a lot of subject teachers that don't qualify will move on. Hopefully I will make a ton more kuai next year.


Any idea is this is a provincial law or if it'll be for the country? (GREAT news!!)
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asiannationmc



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have a "good" source that says subject teachers (not esl) will now need a teaching cert (B.ed pgce, etc) and five years teaching experience to get a visa teaching a subject. My source is the administration (chinese and laowai) of a private hs who have confirmed this with the local psb.


This is my understanding in Beijing as well.

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Am interested what this will do to salaries. Possible a lot of subject teachers that don't qualify will move on. Hopefully I will make a ton more kuai next year.


I fear it will do little as the qualified who make the bucks are already in international programs and those in franchise programs (English teachers) are now in many cases being hired by Chinese admin. Overseas uni's don't really want to pay more to those who are in partial programs here and if a raise is coming it is a little way down the pike. In anticipation of this, the university I worked for has turned over its hiring to the Chinese uni it has an agreement with and all subject classes will be taught by Chinese who are skilled at English. One reason I have left their employ was simply I see the gravy train ending. i would hope that all qualified teacher would finely get their due but education as a career is fraught with cost cutting measures disguise as regulations or requirements. So far those already in those positions may not have to provide proof of certs. or qualified licenses.
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Bud Powell



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big Worm wrote:
I have a "good" source that says subject teachers (not esl) will now need a teaching cert (B.ed pgce, etc) and five years teaching experience to get a visa teaching a subject.


To teach middle and secondary school, right? I can't see how certification could benefit someone with masters degrees who teaches in a university.
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mickeyrex



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Police Certificate (For Beijing Now & Shanghai Soon)

-What police certificate would be acceptable from the USA? I've worked in Beijing and Guangdong province before and didn't need one. My previous FBI CRC wasn't used is now outdated. Would a state one work because the FBI one can take from 1-3 months.
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toteach



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mickeyrex wrote:
Police Certificate (For Beijing Now & Shanghai Soon)

-What police certificate would be acceptable from the USA? I've worked in Beijing and Guangdong province before and didn't need one. My previous FBI CRC wasn't used is now outdated. Would a state one work because the FBI one can take from 1-3 months.


To get into Jiangsu, I only needed one from my county police department. They issued a "citizen of good standing" statement on letterhead. Then I had them throw on a couple of stamps for good measure... Worked just fine
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litterascriptor



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wasn't AP Trueblue's big thing? He never did confirm if he was Anthony DiMarco or not.
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Scrabble King



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strange how someone deleted my OP that actually listed the current 2015 China foreign teacher requirements as follows which if you do some checking, you will see are identical to the 2013 and 2014 requirements:

* Bachelor degree in any major

* Valid passport with a Z visa

* English Fluency

* 2 Years previous teaching experience

* Age 21 to 60 years of age

* Police Certificate for Beijing

Teaching certificates are NOT MANDATORY unless you want to work for the EF chain schools which requires them.

Sources:

http://www.SAFEA.gov.cn
http://beijing.usembassy-china.org.cn/acs_teach.html
http://www.chinaforeignteachersunion.com/2015/01/official-2015-china-foreign-teacher.html
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Scrabble King



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mickeyrex wrote:
Police Certificate (For Beijing Now & Shanghai Soon)

-What police certificate would be acceptable from the USA? I've worked in Beijing and Guangdong province before and didn't need one. My previous FBI CRC wasn't used is now outdated. Would a state one work because the FBI one can take from 1-3 months.


You can get a police certificate from any of the following in the U.S. and Canada (not sure about Europe):

* State or Provincial Police
* FBI or RCMP
* Large City Police Departments
* County & Parish Police Departments

At present the Chinese Beijing schools don't seem to care much about the source, so long as they have proof in their files if the PSB comes a knocking on their door.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scrabble King wrote:
Strange how someone deleted my OP...

Not "someone"---the Moderators deleted it and they've locked and/or deleted a couple of threads due to your posts. Multiple postings with the same info and spamming the Cafe forums with links to outside blogs/forums ad nauseam are a big no-no per the forum rules.
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Scrabble King



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomad soul wrote:
Scrabble King wrote:
Strange how someone deleted my OP...

Not "someone"---the Moderators deleted it and they've locked and/or deleted a couple of threads due to your posts. Multiple postings with the same info and spamming the Cafe forums with links to outside blogs/forums ad nauseam are a big no-no per the forum rules.


I'm glad you raised this subject because you had erroneously claimed I posted the 15 Employee Rights of foreign teachers in China 15 times. That was blatant lie. In fact, until yesterday NOBODY had posted more than 7 of the rights and after I went to the National Library to research this and the procedures of the China Arbitration Board, is when I found and posted all 15 of the Employee Rights and posted them - exactly ONCE at this link.

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=109575

So do you have some legitimate reason for not wanting teachers to know all 15 of their rights Nomad Soul? And why should anyone want to hide the official 2015 foreign teacher requirements? They were correctly stated direct from the SAFEA web site.
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Bud Powell



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scrabble King wrote:
"...and after I went to the National Library to research this and the procedures of the China Arbitration Board..."


How do you find the time to teach?
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scrabble King wrote:
nomad soul wrote:
Scrabble King wrote:
Strange how someone deleted my OP...

Not "someone"---the Moderators deleted it and they've locked and/or deleted a couple of threads due to your posts. Multiple postings with the same info and spamming the Cafe forums with links to outside blogs/forums ad nauseam are a big no-no per the forum rules.

I'm glad you raised this subject because you had erroneously claimed I posted the 15 Employee Rights of foreign teachers in China 15 times. That was blatant lie. In fact, until yesterday NOBODY had posted more than 7 of the rights and after I went to the National Library to research this and the procedures of the China Arbitration Board, is when I found and posted all 15 of the Employee Rights and posted them - exactly ONCE at this link.

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=109575

So do you have some legitimate reason for not wanting teachers to know all 15 of their rights Nomad Soul? And why should anyone want to hide the official 2015 foreign teacher requirements? They were correctly stated direct from the SAFEA web site.

Based on the following, you're certainly well on your way to repeating the same content 15+ times and/or including the same underwhelming scam site link to it:

All 15 Of Our Employee Rights As China Foreign Teachers...
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=109575

China chain letter to foreign teachers about employee rights
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=109481

What clauses China foreign teachers should add to contracts?
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=109482

Know Your Employee Rights In China As Foreign Teachers
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=109502

15 Employee Rights Of China Foreign ESL & TEFL Teachers.
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=109507

Getting paid 9 months on a 12 month contract. Common or not?
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?p=1188679

Paying for a release letter
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?p=1189453

China Foreign Teachers Salaries Almost Lowest In World?
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?p=1189450

2015 China Foreign ESL, TEFL, AP Teacher Requirements...
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?p=1190218

* * * * * *

That's a lot for someone who's still fairly new to the Cafe. Frankly, once or twice was enough.

Instead of getting huffy at me for pointing out the obvious, you should probably be more mindful of the reason behind the Moderators' actions.
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