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[Aristotle]

[brian]

As I said in my post in response to this question, I am very confident that you wouldn't be deported for working within a kindergarten provided that you had your work permit through that school or it's affiliated company and are paying taxes etc.

Charles Mack wasn't teaching kindergarten and therefore comparing his situation to the question posed is a very tenuous link. Bear in mind that he had been implicated in a number of illegal activities in Taiwan, and failed to qualify for health reasons to maintain his residence here. I think that what happened to him was a disgrace, and something that Taiwan should be very embarrassed about, but I don't see that it in any way equates to the discussion on this thread.

[Aristotle]

Kindergartens have never been allowed to sponsor work permits. For a few months foreign teachers were allowed to teach in these schools provided they had written permission from their ARC sponsor, filed and approved with the local MOE administrator.
That is now prohibited and anyone working in a kindergarten is doing so illegally and subjecting their employers to the risk of extortion by the Ministry of Education of the Republic of China.
The rationale for this is obvious. The MOE recently had it's authority to authorize work permits to Foreign Teachers revoked because of all the bribes they were forcing private schools to pay them. In retaliation and to maintain their authority to extort bribes from private schools they have created the recent ambiguity in regulations. There is a major political shift expected next month and many of these officials are expected to flee to avoid accountability for their actions.
Any of you R.O.C. government cronies better keep your heads down.
They don't deport ROC nationals and you can be sure your reputations will follow you.
A.

[brian]

[killian]

brian, can you read chinese? if not, and for the sake of the folks playing at home...

go directly to the famous and much beloved www.tealit.com.

click on the "forum" option.

after following the aforementioned link look to the top of page. look for the link highlighted in red: "foreigners prohibited from teaching kindergarden in taiwan." click on the red letters. should be everything you need, including copies of the official edicts/orders.

tealit ain't good, but they do "special reports" such as this really well.

[TaoyuanSteve]

I recently interviewed at a school with a kindergarten. I asked them about the kindergarten situation. They were surprisingly honest (I think they liked me). They told me the arc they would have issued would be from their cram school only, not for the kindie (that's how it is everywhere). In the event of a visit from officials, I would have been notified to stop teaching my kindie class immediately and leave the room. Since they are also a cram school, it would not have mattered if I was found on site. In this case, I would simply lie and tell them I am there on cram scool business. They were quite frank with me concerning the situation re: kindergartens. They told me that currently no kindie is legal work, but every kindie has a foreigner. I haven't agreed with Aristotle much recently, but I think he might be right on this one. It might be wise to avoid kindies right now.

[Aristotle]

The national elections are next month and the ruling party is expected to lose badly. Hopefully that will facilitate major changes in personal at all levels of civil service. Particularly persons who have been abusing their positions.
This should all be over by April.
This persecution of Foreign teachers on the part of the Republic of China government is however an excellent opportunity for any and all teachers being affected to formally protest these action here on Taiwan and in their native countries. A simple email would be sufficient.
For more info please contact SSETT.
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[Pop Fly]

[killian]

doncha think, maybe...jus maybe the KMT is gonna wanna open a canna whoopass once it slides back in power?

all those laowai english teachers...calling the KMT bad things 'n teaching the kids what really happened on 2/28...do ya really think the KMT forgets? the KMT got hoodwinked into democracy. Lee teng Hui pulled a fast one on em. what's that ol song? "screaming, screaming for vengeance!"

the butcher of taipei and a certain wife beater are gonna gonna go to the mattresses and all old accounts are gonna be settled.

enjoy reading the taipei times? read it while you can. remember reading the taipei times before CSB? they started publishing about the same time he got in office. coincidence? won't it be grand the choices: china post or that other one. we already only get CNN, the time warner baby. everyone should realize that for two generations time has been overly kind to the KMT, dating back to Soong Mei Ling. gonna get objective coverage there? nah. is that why we can't get bbc instead? don't "freemarkets" offer choices?

yeah,yeah,yeah..."ni xiang tai duo le!"

[Aristotle]

The only way for the KMT to roll back democracy is to have the military take over. The military is overwhelmingly Taiwanese.
The KMT would fail and be chased out of the island.
They have to play the game and that means doing a better job than the DPP did in all areas. The KMT has the money and quanxi to make almost anything happen.

[killian]

"the military is overwhelmingly Taiwanese"...say what? the military is a bastion of the KMT. there has been open speculation that the KMT army won't actually fight their counterparts across the straights and that the military leadership would resort to tactics similar to those the union comanders used early on in the war between the US states: malinger, malinger, malinger. until very recently, one wasn't promoted without being a memeber of the party. one could not get commissioned without being a card carrying member. where do old taiwanese generals retire to?

can you have a democracy without a free press? apple daily, next and the taipei times...among the most free of taiwan's press are all new within the paast four years. would any of them ever come to fruit if theyu had been sown on the KMT's rocky soil?

it will indeed be fascinating to see if the KMT tries to put the genie back in the bottle.

[Aristotle]

Yes that is true. The vast majority of R.O.C. military comanders are from mainland China. A military coup means that they take over government with the consent of military alone. Without the support of the people the Generals would have to rely on the loyalty of their Taiwanese troops.
In a professional army that might be a possibility but in the slave army of the Republic of China....
Who do you think is going to take the first bullet. The Taiwanese President of Taiwan or the Mainland General giving the order to the Taiwanese soldier to shoot the Taiwanese president?
A coup is no longer an option and hasn't been for over a generation, if the KMT wants to stay in the game they have to play by the rules.

[tweed]

I just got my ARC and apparently it has the name of my school but no location on it. There are 10 branches of my school so is this sketchy?
-T

[Polina]

At least it has the name of your school on it: I was working for a chain of about the same size and found out that my ARC had a completely different school's name on it: now that's sketchy. If your school is legally linked to the chain, then maybe it's a good sign. Is your contract the same as for the other schools in the chain?

[brian]