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battleshipb_b



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How many teachers do they need? I read one of the posts which said they have some sort of 'understanding'.

QU should facilitate the transfer of some teachers to this school (which I just saw yesterday when I was cruisiing around town - how Doha has changed from my day). This would be a solution for some, especially the American teachers if Americans are what they hire. QU should definitely allow teachers to resign without penalty if they find another job even if it is past the resignation notice time. That would be the decent thing to do under the circumstances.
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WantToKnow



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:19 am    Post subject: orientation manual for new hires at CCQ Reply with quote

no orientation manual for some groups of teachers at CCQ; however,
below now posted on Houston Community College website, which is http://sites.hccs.edu/qatar/

http://sites.hccs.edu/qatar/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/ccqorientation01102012.pdf
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some very bizarre things are their suggested shipping lists... why would you ship paper towels? Kitchen and laundry supplies? They don't sell laundry baskets or spatulas or paper towels in Qatar? Laughing

I also find the use of the term "seconded" very bizarre. Why are they using old British military terminology? I've never heard it used in the US before.

The summer ticket is to Houston? What if that is not your home? Or are they still bringing all teachers over and not doing any other hiring?

VS
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:47 am    Post subject: two articles in Houston Chronicle about CCQ: 4 February 2012 Reply with quote

http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/HCC-in-Qatar-A-long-distance-challengeHCC-had-3039161.php

http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Accreditation-a-key-concern-for-HCC-campus-in-3035400.php


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:49 am    Post subject: return ticket to Houston ONLY Reply with quote

If people hired are from other places besides Houston, these people have to pay to get to those places.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:01 pm    Post subject: Re: return ticket to Houston ONLY Reply with quote

WantToKnow wrote:
If people hired are from other places besides Houston, these people have to pay to get to those places.

Ridiculous!!! Why is it that so many of these new employers never bother to comply with local policies for the employment of expat teachers??

Pure stupidity and arrogance as far as I can see, but the two articles rather point to the first adjective as being primary.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear WanttoKnow,

"If people hired are from other places besides Houston, these people have to pay to get to those places."

That's rather confusing - why would people have to pay to get to "those places" when, according to your post, they are already "from (those) other places?

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John
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:29 am    Post subject: pay to travel outside to destinations outside of Houston Reply with quote

It is my understanding that roundtrip airfare is paid for CCQ employees to and from Houston. If CCQ employees want to go to another place besides Houston, it is at their own expense. This may be true for shipping personal goods as well so that CCQ employees pay to ship what they are taking to Houston. CCQ then pays for these goods to be air shipped to and from
Qatar.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:32 am    Post subject: 2/4 or 5/2012 posting about CCQ on Houston blog Reply with quote

recent February 4 or 5, 2012 posting about CCQ (in addition to many
others in the past) at: http://www.insidehccs.com/
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helenl



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As one clarification, jews are not prohibited from teaching in Qatar (not sure about HCC/CCQ but I doubt if either ask about religion in the employment process - and most, if agnostic, atheist, bhuddist or hindi just tick the Christian box if they want the job and that box is included on any official forms).

I've known any number of the above working and living happily in Qatar and the rest of the GCC - they are just not making an issue of their religion. The worst religious "offenders" and the ones who usually end up in trouble with authorities in my experience are Christians who proselytise, this latter practice being illegal in all GCC countries.

The actual private practice of the Christian faith (or the Jewish faith for that matter) are not illegal (and several countries' leaders have set aside areas for churches to be built - no synagogues that I've heard of) as followers of Islam, Judaism and Christianity are all considered people of the book.

If one feels the need to make a point about their religious affiliations when applying for work in the GCC then those people are probably better suited to jobs elsewhere in the world - is it discrimination? Probably to a certain extent, but then I watch the news from US TV stations and I wonder, are we in the West really all that much better?
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yellofello



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:30 pm    Post subject: Re: pay to travel outside to destinations outside of Houston Reply with quote

WantToKnow wrote:
It is my understanding that roundtrip airfare is paid for CCQ employees to and from Houston. If CCQ employees want to go to another place besides Houston, it is at their own expense. This may be true for shipping personal goods as well so that CCQ employees pay to ship what they are taking to Houston. CCQ then pays for these goods to be air shipped to and from
Qatar.


They said it's just the mileage that counts. You can go anywhere else within the mileage allocated.
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yellofello



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This doesn't sound too good. Nice visit and all but this seems like CCQ may be going the QU way. From what I heard HCC chose that madwoman dean not the Qatar gov't according to a friend's friend who worked here. And what's this about visa issues? Maybe I'd better stay where I am.



Quote:
Houston Community College Struggles With Project in Qatar
February 6, 2012, 11:20 am Chronicle of Higher Education.

Houston Community College’s effort to build and help operate a community college in Qatar has been racked by misunderstandings with Qatari officials and other problems, reports the Houston Chronicle. According to e-mails and internal documents obtained by the newspaper, the Community College of Qatar, which opened for classes in 2010, is teaching female and male students separately, contrary to the contract the Houston institution signed; has faced accreditation issues with students unable to receive Houston Community College credit for courses as originally promised; and has been problematic for visiting American faculty members, who have complained of visa issues and other logistical problems of working in the Persian Gulf kingdom.In November a dean chosen by the Qatari government was replaced by a Houston Community College official. The Houston college’s deputy chancellor said that the problems have been fixed and that they were part of the usual challenges of working abroad.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 6:55 am    Post subject: current training in Houston before going to CCQ: adequate?? Reply with quote

from http://sites.hccs.edu/qatar/gigi-do/category/ccq-orientation

days 1 & 2:

http://sites.hccs.edu/international/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Qatarday1_2_-Orientation_Aug16_17_-11.pdf

day 3:

http://sites.hccs.edu/international/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Qatar_day-3-orientation_August18_11.pdf


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:10 am    Post subject: Feb. 9, 2012 posting on Houston website http://www.insidehcc Reply with quote

http://www.insidehccs.com/

Of course HCC's take on it is always put a spin to it, What one does not not know can not hurt, here is HCC on Qatar. The media and blogs are having a field day with the "Crazy College of Qatar". Here is the articulation agreement that the CCQ (Crazy College of Qatar) signed with Qatar University. Take the news from over there for what it is, completely controlled by the government. At least here our media is controlled by the dollar and HCC spends more money on advertising than they do in providing programs that excel.

My take on this is that Art and Mary are at their best when they are explaining their failures which are often but normally hidden. If one had followed their comments through this episode one would not have come away with what HCC is now stating. I maintain that HCC has lost money in Art and Mary's little venture to the Middle East.

Other serious allegations have been brought by other employees who found themselves quickly transferred when they pointed out improper movement of money within various accounts. People at Main know that if they want to keep their jobs they have to keep their tongues from wagging. There are exceptions if one knows too much and one has it documented they may get mad at you but they will transfer you to a better paying position to keep one from talking and going to the police.
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sharter



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:15 am    Post subject: Helenl Reply with quote

Are we in the west really that much better?

We are certainly more tolerant. We have laws which are implemented protecting against discrimination and certainly in Europe you'll find mosques everywhere.

That said, most of us are in the GCC for the money, so we put up and shut up.
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