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slenglen



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 1:48 pm    Post subject: PGCE and QTS Reply with quote

Hi,
I am planning on doing a distance PGCE course. I was wondering if anyone out there knows if it is possible to gain QTS in Hong Kong after completing a UK PGCE course and would it be accepted for teaching in UK schools? The reason I ask is because I have heard that the PGCE course in HK is only recognised in HK (unless someone knows otherwise).I cannot afford the time or loss of income to do a full 2 years in the UK so I am equally interested in how others have got round this in general.
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ContemporaryDog



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 11:13 am    Post subject: Re: PGCE and QTS Reply with quote

slenglen wrote:
Hi,
I am planning on doing a distance PGCE course. I was wondering if anyone out there knows if it is possible to gain QTS in Hong Kong after completing a UK PGCE course and would it be accepted for teaching in UK schools? The reason I ask is because I have heard that the PGCE course in HK is only recognised in HK (unless someone knows otherwise).I cannot afford the time or loss of income to do a full 2 years in the UK so I am equally interested in how others have got round this in general.


I've been looking into this too, as at some point I want to work in Hong kong (just have a BA+CELTA at the moment)

How much does the course in HK cost?

I'd probably be better off returning to the Uk and doing it there, since its funded by the government. I'm pretty sure the one in the UK is recognised anywhere - my friend did it after graduating and he is currently in Moscow, is considering other places. Definitely accepted in HK.
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slenglen



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:57 pm    Post subject: PGCE by distance Reply with quote

The course would be by distance as in from a UK University. This ofcourse would be recognised in Hong Kong. However if you do the Hong Kong PGCE, it is only recognised in Hong Kong and not in the UK or elsewhere (as far as I know). What I wanted to know was if I was to do the PGCE course by distance from a UK Uni, would gaining QTS in Hong Kong be acceptable in order to work in International British schools allover the world or in the UK itself. Just wondering if anyone out there has info on this.
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ghost



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 11:03 pm    Post subject: PGCE versus B.Ed. ? Reply with quote

Ghost did his B.Ed. at the University of Windsor (Ontario, Canada)
- September 2001 to April 2002. There were 4 teaching practices each lasting 3 weeks.

Other than that there were theory classes. It was pretty easy (the theory at least) but some of the teaching practices were brutal. What ghost found particularly difficult, was the whole subjectivity issue with regard to grading in the teaching practices. If your assessor liked you as a person, you would get a higher grade.....and this was seen time again, with many students. The system is somewhat flawed.

The advantage - as far as title goes - is that B.Ed. sounds somewhat more impressive than PGCE, although it is not more impressive, and one might guess that PGCE is more intensive and difficult to pass in comparison with the Canadian version (B.Ed.).

In Canada - it is very rare for someone admitted to Teacher's College to "fail." Most of the students entering go on to at least "satisfactory" status and obtain their coveted teaching credentials. What is the rate of attrition in the UK for those on the PGCE program?

How do Canadian trained teachers fare in the UK compared with other nationals (Aussies, Kiwis, South Africans, Americans?).
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waxwing



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 6:18 am    Post subject: Re: PGCE versus B.Ed. ? Reply with quote

ghost wrote:

In Canada - it is very rare for someone admitted to Teacher's College to "fail." Most of the students entering go on to at least "satisfactory" status and obtain their coveted teaching credentials. What is the rate of attrition in the UK for those on the PGCE program?


I don't remember anyone failing on my course, but I think we had maybe a 30% dropout rate, mostly in the first term (semester).
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