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overworkedandunderpaid · Joined: 26 Mar 2010 Posts: 17 Location: somewhere on earth

Would anyone be able to compare and contrast teaching at IH in Kyiv or Odessa with teaching at London School of English in the same cities?
Which is a better work enviroment? Which pays better? Which allows teachers more freedom in their lessons? Which has better hours? etc
Thanks :)

chromium · Joined: 06 Jun 2007 Posts: 67 Location: Donetsk Ukraine

by far, LSE will pay better, full support, have your own apartment, etc.

ecocks · Joined: 06 Nov 2007 Posts: 468 Location: Gdansk, Poland

If I had to choose between those two, I'd also pick LSE.

As for the cities themselves Odessa is the Miami of Ukraine, Kyiv is like its New York. Decide what sort of life style you want and take your shot.

pertam · Joined: 09 Jun 2012 Posts: 3

Like the old adage: Only believe half of what you see and none of what you hear. LSE pay better Very Happy

nice one

Having lived in Kiev for a number of years and met with a number of teachers from both LSE and IH, I have to say that IH is better. IH pay for all your professional development including IHC Young Learners, IHC Advanced Methodology and full payment for DELTA (over 4 years) whereas LSE only pay for half. IH will pay you at 8uah to the dollar for ALL of your salary, whereas LSE pay at some strange antiquated rate which means you end up with less than advertised each month. On the plus side LSE do tend to pay a little more for flats but as you will get paid more at IH my advice is to pick IH.

chromium · Joined: 06 Jun 2007 Posts: 67 Location: Donetsk Ukraine

Only believe half of what you see and none of what you hear.

Exactly, so believe nothing that you read from this person who has never worked at LSE, like I do.

What is saying is complete crap. Talk to the teachers who have actually worked there instead of listening to people write things they have no first hand knowledge about.

PM me if you want the real scoop or find my other posts on this forum.

Just because this guy lives in Kiev, he has not worked for either school, does not make him an expert and I'm not sure why he is even giving his sage advice on the matter since he doesn't know what he is talking about.

pertam · Joined: 09 Jun 2012 Posts: 3

Are you saying that LSE in Kiev don't pay a percentage of their pay to teachers at less than 8uah to the dollar?
You are right though Chromium, I don't work for LSE Kiev. I do however work for IH Kiev and socalise with some of the teachers from LSE every weekend, and so get to hear firsthand their gripes and moans.
Maybe it is different in Donetsk.

chromium · Joined: 06 Jun 2007 Posts: 67 Location: Donetsk Ukraine

Yes, that is what I'm saying. They pay 50% in USD and the other 50% is 8 UAH per $.

Cardinal Synn · Joined: 01 Nov 2004 Posts: 559