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musicmunky
Joined: 03 Mar 2008 Posts: 34
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Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 10:20 am Post subject: Work no CELTA |
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Hey...is it possible to get teaching work in Spain without a CELTA? I have a university degree and a weekend TEFL cert and some teaching experience |
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microbabe
Joined: 03 Feb 2010 Posts: 115
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Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 10:39 am Post subject: Re: Work no CELTA |
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musicmunky wrote: |
Hey...is it possible to get teaching work in Spain without a CELTA? I have a university degree and a weekend TEFL cert and some teaching experience |
Hi,
I am in a similar position to you, but work in Portugal at a small private school. I think it is possible in Spain if you are prepared to work in a less desirable area. I have found that the pay is not as good as in a bigger school and career develompent is non existant. Our basic needs are covered at the school ,but facilities could be improved. I am lucky because my husband is fully trained. It is useful, in that, if you can put up with some crap for a while to get more experience and move on. |
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Moore
Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 730 Location: Madrid
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Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 11:34 am Post subject: |
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Having a Celta helps a lot, but is not a deal-breaker for Madrid at least. A good few people I know have never done one and are working for top schools here, including some very well-known ones which theoretically do demand them.
Experience, working papers, and good presentation and attitude make more of a difference in 95% of schools here.
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Littlebird
Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Posts: 82 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 8:16 pm Post subject: can you make a living ? |
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The bottom line is can you make a living working part time teaching English in Spain. I have a CELTA , a degree, no experience and no Spanish. Any advice
SAM |
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microbabe
Joined: 03 Feb 2010 Posts: 115
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 10:40 am Post subject: Re: can you make a living ? |
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Littlebird wrote: |
The bottom line is can you make a living working part time teaching English in Spain. I have a CELTA , a degree, no experience and no Spanish. Any advice
SAM |
No, only if you can supplement your income elsewhere. If you work on the idea that the average salary seems to be 1200 euros a month so part-time about 600 euros. Then there is food, somewhere to live 200+ etc.
Maybe I am wrong. It could be done if you don�t mind saving nothing and not having a life.
With your qualifications you should get work though- F/T ?? |
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Littlebird
Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Posts: 82 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 9:06 pm Post subject: Making a living in Spain |
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Cheers Microbabe
I thought as much. I could do cleaning. I can imagine I would have enormous trouble making 2 jobs work maybe they would clash. What do you mean FT ?
SAM |
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mozzar
Joined: 16 May 2009 Posts: 339 Location: France
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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He means, you could get a full time (FT) teaching job. You can live on a full time teaching job, but not on a part time one. There'd be absolutely no point in working part time as a teacher and then having to work another 15 hours as a cleaner for half the wage. |
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SirKirby
Joined: 03 Oct 2007 Posts: 261 Location: Barcelona, Spain
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:33 am Post subject: |
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I'd say it's DEFINITELY much more difficult to find a job in a decent school if you don't have any teaching qualifications (which is as it should be: would you want an unqualified dentist...?)
20 years ago, it was possible here in Spain, literally to step straight off the plane into a job without any other qualifications than being a native speaker. Not nowadays. |
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Moore
Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 730 Location: Madrid
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:22 am Post subject: |
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I do know a fair few people who work in bars (lower wages, but many more blocks of hours available, though of course a working level of Spanish is necessary) and then do lunchtime classes at much higher rates. This is in Madrid - in Barcelona bar workers wages are dismal (and they're not amazing here), though free beer and social life covers a lot of what many teachers would spend their wages on anyway
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SirKirby
Joined: 03 Oct 2007 Posts: 261 Location: Barcelona, Spain
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:55 am Post subject: |
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You might note that cleaning must be about the worst paid job in Spain. You'll be on the minimum wage, which at around 630 euros/month is about half what it is in other European countries.
Details here: http://www.salariominimo.es/ |
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microbabe
Joined: 03 Feb 2010 Posts: 115
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:50 am Post subject: |
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mozzar wrote: |
He means, you could get a full time (FT) teaching job. You can live on a full time teaching job, but not on a part time one. There'd be absolutely no point in working part time as a teacher and then having to work another 15 hours as a cleaner for half the wage. |
Grrrrrrr ! I�m not a bloke !!! |
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Littlebird
Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Posts: 82 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:35 pm Post subject: Making a living in Spain |
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I'm gobsmacked I can get full time work in Spain with a CELTA ? Really ? Should I apply when there or before leaving ? Does anyone have any useful sites ?
Thanks to you all
SAM
Of course you are female Microbabe. What sort of he would be a babe ? |
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Littlebird
Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Posts: 82 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:48 pm Post subject: Minimum wage |
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Is there minimum wage 6 euros a hour ? That is not much different to the UK at �5.80 a hour. How much is tax and national insurance (equivalent ) in spain ?
Cheers SAM |
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microbabe
Joined: 03 Feb 2010 Posts: 115
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 2:06 pm Post subject: Re: Making a living in Spain |
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Littlebird wrote: |
I'm gobsmacked I can get full time work in Spain with a CELTA ? Really ? Should I apply when there or before leaving ? Does anyone have any useful sites ?
Thanks to you all
SAM
Of course you are female Microbabe. What sort of he would be a babe ? |
Thanks !
Have search on this site about recruitment times- schools are recruiting now for Sept/ Oct start. Things will go dead in August in Spain.Everyone is on holiday. On the whole it is better to be over here for job hunting.
Tefl.com is useful,but also do a search for other sites.
What about summer teaching (Tefl) in the UK ?
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microbabe
Joined: 03 Feb 2010 Posts: 115
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 2:20 pm Post subject: Re: Minimum wage |
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Littlebird wrote: |
Is there minimum wage 6 euros a hour ? That is not much different to the UK at �5.80 a hour. How much is tax and national insurance (equivalent ) in spain ?
Cheers SAM |
We are in Portugal at the moment and my husband pays about 150 in deductions (NI) I think/ month. I think it is more in Spain, however for the first year in Spain you don`t pay anything. You will need to check with the others on here for confirmation.
Not sure about the minimum wage thing remember you could be contracted to work hrs/week but be doing more 35-40 with no extra pay. ( Sore point) not uncommon. |
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