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ET/Berlitz Madness

 
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gulam2



Joined: 19 May 2005
Posts: 137

PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 11:26 am    Post subject: ET/Berlitz Madness Reply with quote

The insanity of working in Turkey - a personal view

Salary
Thailand 1000 $
Turkey 1000 %

Working Hours
Thailand 8am-4pm
Turkey 7am-11pm

Lunch
Thailand 1 $
Turkey 9 $

Purchase a phone
Thailand 15 $
Turkey 126 $

Phone per month (first month)
Thailand 3 $
Turkey 76 $

Fruit (mixed)
Thailand 3 $
Turkey 10 $

Accommodation
Thailand Quite nice
Turkey Absolute slum (ET and Berlitz)

Management
Thailand Reasonable
Turkey Unbelievably bad

Salaries Paid
Thailand Yes. On Time
Turkey Sometimes (theft does occur). Often Late.

Students
Thailand Greeted with a smile and treated with respect.
Turkey. ANIMALS

Climate
Thailand Hot
Turkey Winters COLD

Historical Value
Thailand Yes
Turkey Yes

Theft
Thailand Very Seldom
Turkey Very Common

People
Thailand Friendly
Turkey Crooks

Job Satisfaction
Thailand High
Turkey Zero
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Solar Strength



Joined: 12 Jul 2005
Posts: 560
Location: Bangkok, Thailand

PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

aha! So I guess I know where you're headed.

Turkey not all that great to teach in? I was thinking of doing the opposite.
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eclectic



Joined: 09 Nov 2006
Posts: 1122

PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

holy smokes, thats bad.....I believe a good 75% of it, too. and thats bad, as I too was thinking of heading there soon.

Shocked this is looking worrisome. better stick to se asia, as the west (I incl. Turkey there now sort of) is about to really bite the big one, from n america all the way to turkey.
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Dedicated



Joined: 18 May 2007
Posts: 762
Location: UK

PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Admittedly, I never worked for ET or Berlitz in Turkey, but I did work at a university and a language school in Ankara.

Gulam2 is obviously entitled to his opinion about Turkey, but I had a totally different experience, which might encourage others to apply to teach in Turkey.

My salary was 5 times what the average Turk earned, and my working hours were either 8am - 1pm or 1pm - 6pm (two different shifts at university). At language school it was Mon-Fri 5pm - 10pm., then 1pm - 6pm at weekends.

My accommodation was excellent - a spanking new apartment, with all mod cons. My students were hard-working and respectful.

I had no experience of theft, and found the people to be extremely kind and hospitable. Overall, my job satisfaction was wonderful - in 25 years of EFL/EAP teaching, I have never had such motivated, kind, lively students. I guess it depends who you work for!
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Sashadroogie



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Posts: 9786
Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise

PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll second Dedicated. ET and Berlitz are crooks, but the other negative comments on this thread about Turkish people and students are not representative at all.
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Solar Strength



Joined: 12 Jul 2005
Posts: 560
Location: Bangkok, Thailand

PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, I know what ET and Berlitz are like to be involved with. They are very dishonest with customers, staff and teachers. They are part of a bad lot (English conversation school mills), and not too far off from what Geos and NOVA were like.

But if you have a sheitty job that you have to go to every day, then it makes the experience a terrible one.

Having a job you like can really make the experience, so that may explain the disparity in opinions described above.
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