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mmacmu1



Joined: 27 May 2010
Posts: 3

PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 11:25 pm    Post subject: Newbie needs help! Reply with quote

Hello all,

This is is my first post on the boards. I've been very impressed with the amount of information that's around. That's almost the problem... I feel overwhelmed with the information surrounding teaching English abroad. I hope some one can help steer me in the right direction.

I'm a recent college graduate (BA in Economics, BA in History) and American citizen looking to spend some time abroad before I go to graduate school in Fall '11. I'm basically looking for a way to finance my travel, gain some teaching experience, and have an overall good time before I go to grad school. I'm not trying to do this as a profession and don't expect to save much money. Ideally I'd like to just make enough money to get by (though I have a bit of money saved).

Areas I am interested in: South Asia, India, Nepal, South America (particularly Argentina, Costa Rica, Chile), E. Europe. I'm pretty open at the moment as to where I'm willing to go. Also, I can get around with French, so I'd really like to consider a place where I can brush up on my French.

- Given my time constraints, should I get certification? I'd be willing to do an online course, but I'm weary of trusting any of these web sites which seem to prey on google users. Will it increase my pay or allow me to teach in some countries that I couldn't without certification? I can pay upfront costs if they will make sense economically through a higher wage.

- What kind of time line am I looking at? I mean, how quickly can I expect to leave the U.S. from now to go to another country (considering school seasons). I realize every country is probably different, but I'd like to know if there are some places where I could pack up and leave today (without prior arrangements). I started talking to a company for South Korea, but backed out (don't think Korea is my cup of tea).

I realize that a lot of this information is probably out there, but I've had a tough go at sifting through a lot of it. I hope some one can give me enough general information so I can continue my search.

Thanks in advance,
Mark
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TeresaLopez



Joined: 18 Apr 2010
Posts: 601
Location: Mexico City

PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You didn't specifically mention Mexico, but if you came to Mexico City with a degree, you could be working within days at one of any language institutes - many of them offer their own training, so you wouldn't need a TESOL certificate. Depending on how you want to live, you could get by, travel around Mexico, which can be very inexpensive, and possibly save a little.
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mmacmu1



Joined: 27 May 2010
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for replying to my post. I really didn't even think about Mexico... I was more focused on going a bit further from home. I'm going to look into it though because it sounds like a good opportunity.

Any other ideas?

Thanks,
Mark
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HCV



Joined: 10 Nov 2009
Posts: 8

PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was in China for 3 yrs and am now in Indonesia. I came to Indonesia for a two week holiday, and am now busy with my third contract here.

It is a great country with many diverse cultures, and worth giving a try.
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Chancellor



Joined: 31 Oct 2005
Posts: 1335
Location: Zibo, China - if you're willing to send me cigars, I accept donations :)

PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And here I was beginning to think that TEFL was moving beyond the unqualified native-English-speaker backpacker and becoming a real profession. I guess I was wrong.
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tttompatz



Joined: 06 Mar 2010
Posts: 1951
Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines

PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chancellor wrote:
And here I was beginning to think that TEFL was moving beyond the unqualified native-English-speaker backpacker and becoming a real profession. I guess I was wrong.


What makes you thing it hasn't moved beyond the back packer stage?

Just because you were working somewhere doesn't mean you can't go somewhere else, fall in love with the country and end up staying.

All of my colleagues are certainly qualified (BA/B.Sc. + TESOL/CELTA as a minimum) and many have higher qualifications now as well as many years of experience,

Are there still places for "back packers"? Yes.

Are they less common now and has the profession started to move mainstream? Also a yes.

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Chancellor



Joined: 31 Oct 2005
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Location: Zibo, China - if you're willing to send me cigars, I accept donations :)

PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tttompatz wrote:
Chancellor wrote:
And here I was beginning to think that TEFL was moving beyond the unqualified native-English-speaker backpacker and becoming a real profession. I guess I was wrong.


What makes you thing it hasn't moved beyond the back packer stage?

Just because you were working somewhere doesn't mean you can't go somewhere else, fall in love with the country and end up staying.

All of my colleagues are certainly qualified (BA/B.Sc. + TESOL/CELTA as a minimum) and many have higher qualifications now as well as many years of experience,

Are there still places for "back packers"? Yes.

Are they less common now and has the profession started to move mainstream? Also a yes.

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I was referring to the original post.
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HCV



Joined: 10 Nov 2009
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe I should have been more clear - after having worked as a QUALIFIED teacher in China for three years, I came to Indonesia for a 2 week holiday and never left...
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Chancellor



Joined: 31 Oct 2005
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Location: Zibo, China - if you're willing to send me cigars, I accept donations :)

PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HCV wrote:
Maybe I should have been more clear - after having worked as a QUALIFIED teacher in China for three years, I came to Indonesia for a 2 week holiday and never left...
You being a qualified teacher would certainly have been part of the "beyond the unqualified native-English-speaker backpacker and becoming a real profession." Excuse me for not quoting the original post in my earlier statement.
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