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mancboy84
Joined: 28 Oct 2010 Posts: 13 Location: Manchester, UK
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:51 am Post subject: |
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Steinmann wrote: |
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Case in point: the "finding that first job" thread. Glad I didn't get involved in that one... You try to offer advice and get told off for it.
To echo a comment made on that thread, best of luck to folks who disregard responses (which can be anything, of course, from subjective personal opinions to actual facts about working requirements) and venture out there anyway. Some of you will get lucky; some of you won't. But if you respond with hostility towards people on the forum who were trying to help you, you'll definitely piss a few people off on the way.
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Please believe that some of us really do value input from those in the know around here, even though it may be discouraging at times. |
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Enigma2011
Joined: 28 Dec 2010 Posts: 60
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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naturegirl321 wrote: |
My advice to newbies would be to search and read up on the countries where they want to go. |
Excellent advice naturegirl321. Get information from forums like Daves, but also do your own research on the places you want to go. |
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LH123
Joined: 13 Jun 2010 Posts: 61
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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No-one could realistically argue against the doctrine of
Get Qualified!
Doing so has the dual benefit of education/experience and formal recognition of ability.
Getting Qualified might be considered a process of personal and professional development for some, while for others it might be simply a formalisation of what they already know...but either way, it's rare that you hear someone lament about how-well-qualified-they-are. |
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denise
Joined: 23 Apr 2003 Posts: 3419 Location: finally home-ish
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:07 am Post subject: |
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LH123 wrote: |
No-one could realistically argue against the doctrine of
Get Qualified!
Doing so has the dual benefit of education/experience and formal recognition of ability.
Getting Qualified might be considered a process of personal and professional development for some, while for others it might be simply a formalisation of what they already know...but either way, it's rare that you hear someone lament about how-well-qualified-they-are. |
Where's the "like" button on this forum?!
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Prof.Gringo
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 2236 Location: Dang Cong San Viet Nam Quang Vinh Muon Nam!
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:19 pm Post subject: Keep it coming! |
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Other tips/advice for the newbies? |
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artemisia
Joined: 04 Nov 2008 Posts: 875 Location: the world
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:24 am Post subject: |
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More on the ''get qualified'' theme. It's fine to get entry level, basic TEFL requirements and then work experience. Many people go this route and then go back later for higher level quals.
My suggestion would be to try and get the higher quals as early as possible though if you can afford to. It can be tough to take up part or full time study later on when juggling work (and other) obligations. Before you head off, just check what subsidies may be available in your country to get at least an initial (if not higher) degree and if travelling/working abroad will have impact on your eligibility for that funding. There may be a certain number of years of residency required back home first even though you're a citizen. Once you've got better qualifications and some experience, more work possibilities will open up. |
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Prof.Gringo
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 2236 Location: Dang Cong San Viet Nam Quang Vinh Muon Nam!
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:46 am Post subject: |
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artemisia wrote: |
More on the ''get qualified'' theme. It's fine to get entry level, basic TEFL requirements and then work experience. Many people go this route and then go back later for higher level quals.
My suggestion would be to try and get the higher quals as early as possible though if you can afford to. It can be tough to take up part or full time study later on when juggling work (and other) obligations. Before you head off, just check what subsidies may be available in your country to get at least an initial (if not higher) degree and if travelling/working abroad will have impact on your eligibility for that funding. There may be a certain number of years of residency required back home first even though you're a citizen. Once you've got better qualifications and some experience, more work possibilities will open up. |
Solid advice |
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Prof.Gringo
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 2236 Location: Dang Cong San Viet Nam Quang Vinh Muon Nam!
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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Another bit of advice:
Make sure you do your homework and have a plan B.
Nothing worse than getting to a country, not speaking the language, to just find out that the job offer either fell through or the job's a joke.
If that happens, then what?
Be sure to have enough to survive for 6-8 weeks on the ground job hunting and airfare back home.
Best of luck to all the newbies! |
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bulgogiboy
Joined: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 803
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 1:04 pm Post subject: Re: Advice to NEWBIES |
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[quote="Prof.Gringo"] or you could care less if you make low wages forever [quote]
I've noticed North Americans say this, but in the UK we would say 'couldn't care less', as in it's not possible for us to care any less about the given subject. I would say the UK version makes more sense. |
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mozzar
Joined: 16 May 2009 Posts: 339 Location: France
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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Reminds me of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om7O0MFkmpw
And I agree. The phrase "I could care less" to indicate you couldn't care less is absolutely retarded. |
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Insubordination
Joined: 07 Nov 2007 Posts: 394 Location: Sydney
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Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 2:52 am Post subject: |
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I never understood that either. I could care less means you care at least a little. I could care less, but I can't help it. I love you. |
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Zero
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Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 4:21 am Post subject: |
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It is sarcastic. "I could theoretically care less, I guess ... not exactly sure how, but I suppose it is conceivable."
The UK version is straight and boring. |
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bulgogiboy
Joined: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 803
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Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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Zero wrote: |
It is sarcastic. "I could theoretically care less, I guess ... not exactly sure how, but I suppose it is conceivable."
The UK version is straight and boring. |
Yeah, that makes sense... |
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bulgogiboy
Joined: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 803
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Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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Zero wrote: |
It is sarcastic. "I could theoretically care less, I guess ... not exactly sure how, but I suppose it is conceivable."
The UK version is straight and boring. |
Yeah, that makes sense... |
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jpvanderwerf2001
Joined: 02 Oct 2003 Posts: 1117 Location: New York
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 2:47 am Post subject: |
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"Could care less" is a solecism; kind of like "irregardless". |
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