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amaranto
Joined: 02 Jun 2009 Posts: 133 Location: M�xico, D.F.
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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it just seems like guys here are the scum of the Earth sometimes... |
Not all the guys, thank goodness |
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Samantha
Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 2038 Location: Mexican Riviera
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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donato said:
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just seems like guys here are the scum of the Earth sometimes... |
I'm taking "here" to mean Mexico City, again? |
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Prof.Gringo
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 2236 Location: Dang Cong San Viet Nam Quang Vinh Muon Nam!
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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Samantha wrote: |
donato said:
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just seems like guys here are the scum of the Earth sometimes... |
I'm taking "here" to mean Mexico City, again? |
Nah, they are worse in the more rural areas, that has been my observation. Chiapas for example. |
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Samantha
Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 2038 Location: Mexican Riviera
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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I sure hope this doesn't turn into another 'culture bashing' session. Different regions are quite different, and that goes for things other than just food! |
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Prof.Gringo
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 2236 Location: Dang Cong San Viet Nam Quang Vinh Muon Nam!
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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Samantha wrote: |
I sure hope this doesn't turn into another 'culture bashing' session. Different regions are quite different, and that goes for things other than just food! |
It's not bashing, but the truth is that Mexico has problems. Some want to ignore those issues or sugar-coat them. Not me. I call it like it is.
In a place like Mexico City, you will see more people with education, better jobs/opportunities, cultural awareness etc.
Go to a more rural area and it is possible to see the complete opposite.
In my exp., all over, in every country it's the same, people from bigger citites tend to be better educated, less racist, more open. |
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Samantha
Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 2038 Location: Mexican Riviera
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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We all have opinions.....you know what they say. |
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Prof.Gringo
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 2236 Location: Dang Cong San Viet Nam Quang Vinh Muon Nam!
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks to all those who have read my tips & advice. I am sure they will help more than a few folks who are new (or maybe not so new) to living and working in Mexico. |
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Isla Guapa
Joined: 19 Apr 2010 Posts: 1520 Location: Mexico City o sea La Gran Manzana Mexicana
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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donato wrote: |
Been in Mexico 7 months or so. Stereotypes happen fast, and at this point it sounds bad, but my impressions about relationships is that Mexican women are about 1,000 times better than American women, and Mexican men are about 1,000 times worse than American men...
luckily for me I like women...it just seems like guys here are the scum of the Earth sometimes... |
Speaking as an American woman, I'm curious to know why you think we are so inferior to the Mexican variety. Just curious . . . |
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MotherF
Joined: 07 Jun 2010 Posts: 1450 Location: 17�48'N 97�46'W
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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Prof.Gringo wrote: |
In a place like Mexico City, you will see more people with education, better jobs/opportunities, cultural awareness etc.
Go to a more rural area and it is possible to see the complete opposite.
In my exp., all over, in every country it's the same, people from bigger citites tend to be better educated, less racist, more open. |
Be careful here. You can find more people in Mexico City--a lot more! Which is true in every country. But that does not mean that per capita people are better educated, less racist, more open.
Here is a list of The 25 Most Educated Cities in the USA. The largest cities, New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston, etc. do not make the list. But rather many "more rural areas" do. |
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Samantha
Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 2038 Location: Mexican Riviera
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you for that, MotherF. |
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Prof.Gringo
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 2236 Location: Dang Cong San Viet Nam Quang Vinh Muon Nam!
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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MotherF wrote: |
Prof.Gringo wrote: |
In a place like Mexico City, you will see more people with education, better jobs/opportunities, cultural awareness etc.
Go to a more rural area and it is possible to see the complete opposite.
In my exp., all over, in every country it's the same, people from bigger citites tend to be better educated, less racist, more open. |
Be careful here. You can find more people in Mexico City--a lot more! Which is true in every country. But that does not mean that per capita people are better educated, less racist, more open.
Here is a list of The 25 Most Educated Cities in the USA. The largest cities, New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston, etc. do not make the list. But rather many "more rural areas" do. |
Education isn't just what you learn about in books or a school. A person in a place with "good education" but very little exposure to other cultures has learned only what was written by some author, that person's own ideas are only based on second-hand reports.
But a day spent on the subways of New York City is an education on it's own.
Street-smarts, multicultural exposure, hearing other langauges being spoken, seeing people from all over the world, that is an education that no school or book provides. |
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MotherF
Joined: 07 Jun 2010 Posts: 1450 Location: 17�48'N 97�46'W
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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Did you look at the cities on the list?
What makes you think there are not people from all over the world in those places? A few years ago it came out that Lincoln, Nebraska was the city with the highest number of foriegn born residents per capita. |
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TeresaLopez
Joined: 18 Apr 2010 Posts: 601 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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Prof.Gringo wrote: |
Go to a more rural area and it is possible to see the complete opposite.
In my exp., all over, in every country it's the same, people from bigger citites tend to be better educated, less racist, more open. |
Just like in the US. Last time I was in South Carolina they were selling the John Birch Society newspaper in boxes on more than a few street corners. I don�t think it is so much a country-based thing as an education level thing. |
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Isla Guapa
Joined: 19 Apr 2010 Posts: 1520 Location: Mexico City o sea La Gran Manzana Mexicana
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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TeresaLopez wrote: |
Prof.Gringo wrote: |
Go to a more rural area and it is possible to see the complete opposite.
In my exp., all over, in every country it's the same, people from bigger citites tend to be better educated, less racist, more open. |
Just like in the US. Last time I was in South Carolina they were selling the John Birch Society newspaper in boxes on more than a few street corners. I don�t think it is so much a country-based thing as an education level thing. |
I think it is also a how-homogeneous-is-your-community kind of thing. If your neighbors all look like you and think like you and go to the same church that you do, then you will be apt to be suspicious of those who are different from you. For example, it's hard to be anti-Semitic (though, of course, some will make the effort!) living in a place like New York City where so many Jews live and where you are apt to have Jewish neighbors or your kids may have Jewish schoolmates. |
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TeresaLopez
Joined: 18 Apr 2010 Posts: 601 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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Isla Guapa wrote: |
I think it is also a how-homogeneous-is-your-community kind of thing. If your neighbors all look like you and think like you and go to the same church that you do, then you will be apt to be suspicious of those who are different from you. For example, it's hard to be anti-Semitic (though, of course, some will make the effort!) living in a place like New York City where so many Jews live and where you are apt to have Jewish neighbors or your kids may have Jewish schoolmates. |
Right, or even funnier is having someone get to know you, and like you, before they find out you are Jewish, Mexican or whatever. Then what do they do? How do YOU fit into the picture with their preconceived notions about what each group is like? |
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