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Captain_Fil · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 2:45 pm Post subject: Arnold Schwarzenegger

Arnold cheated on his wife Maria. He had a secret sexual affair with a housekeeper named Mildred.

Maria and Mildred!

Both were pregnant at the same time in 1997. Both gave birth just days of each other.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1388408/Arnold-Schwarzenegger-love-child-picture-revealed-Mildred-Baenas-son.html

Shocked

spiral78 · Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash

Actually, I kinda liked Arnold as a politician.
IMO, work and personal stuff are really two separate issues when it comes to judging a politician (or manager or coworker).
Personal problems are between those people directly affected.

So, well, doesn't really change my opinion of Arnold. He's not stellar, but at least OK.

Captain_Fil · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 3:03 pm Post subject:

At least, Tiger Woods had affairs with attractive young ladies.

Come on, Arnold....

Confused

spiral78 · Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash

Was Mildred as unattractive as her name? Poor dear. Perhaps he was sorry for her. Shocked

C'mon Captain - the appearance of the woman isn't really relevant, is it??

On a more practical (rather than current eventual) aspect of this discussion:

Sensitivity to physical appearance can be quite problematic in an ESL/EFL classroom, obviously. It's really best to try to cultivate a pretty high level of indifference to people's looks during class - and during courses. So long as the 'pretty young lady' is your student, it's never really kosher to consider her looks for more than a second or two at most.

After the student/teacher relationship has ended, different story.

Not to imply that you'd be guilty of this, Cap, just speaking in general as you brought up the attractiveness issue: it brought this potential classroom problem to mind.

Back to the current event aspect: probably employer/employee relationship poses similar problems to a classroom!

Rap Arnold's knuckles, teacher! Dunce cap on head, to the corner with you!

Sashadroogie · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 6:32 pm Post subject:

Captain_Fil · Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 5:55 am Post subject:

johnslat · Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 12:54 pm Post subject:

Dear Captain_Fil,

On the contrary, I'd say that Tiger's affairs were more shocking to most people. The reason - well, Tiger had the public image of a "good guy / straight arrow" whereas Arnold had the reputation of being a womanizer long before the current disclosure.

Regards,
John

spiral78 · Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash

I'd have to agree that Tiger's transgressions were rather out of left field, in light of his reputation.

Sashadroogie · Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 2:32 pm Post subject:

Definite other-side-of-the-Atlantic puritanical feel to these shocked feelings. Wouldn't raise an eyebrow in Europe. Be it IMF heads or film directors, never mind mere sportsmen. If I were to be in the papers every time I was caught in flagrante delicto, I'd never be out of them...

artemisia · Joined: 04 Nov 2008 Posts: 875 Location: the world

spiral78 · Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash

I'm trying to withhold judgement on the maid and the IMF chief. She may have been the totally innocent, injured party - or she may have been a set-up artist.

artemisia · Joined: 04 Nov 2008 Posts: 875 Location: the world

Quite right, but what I take issue with is the way that these subjects are currently being discussed in France, regardless of whether he�s guilty or not.

This woman might easily be a set-up - (though why take him down at this particular stage?) � who can say? But bracketing the issue of sexual assault with someone just having a bit of consensual fun on the side is distasteful to say the least. Whatever people�s views are on the rights and wrongs of cheating on a partner and damaging the family, let�s just be clear about what�s coercive and abusive. From what I read or heard, the French people who were asked for their opinions suggested it was a political set-up but over and above that, implied it wasn't really a big deal one way or another. It had only proved to be problematic for the IMF Chief as he was caught in puritanical America.

spiral78 · Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash

Captain_Fil · Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 5:16 am Post subject:

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned (or betrayed)...

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_18131408?source=most_viewed&nclick_check=1

Maria Shriver's Revenge Twisted Evil

geaaronson · Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 948 Location: Mexico City

Hunh? I always assumed Arnold was doing the hanky panky. Not surprised in the least. But his timing does surprise me. He must have had it up all that day!