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Captain_Fil
Joined: 06 Jan 2011 Posts: 604 Location: California - the land of fruits and nuts
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Sashadroogie
Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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Sadly the predictable black humour has already started... |
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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What a shame - a fine talent but a tormented soul. Her Back to Black album is incredibly good, and her single Rehab ( ironic title/lyrics, considering)
"They tried to make me go to rehab but I said no, no, no
Yes I've been black but when I come back you'll know, know know
I ain't got the time
And if my daddy thinks I'm fine
You tried to make me go to rehab but I won't go, go, go
I'd rather be at home with Ray
I ain't got seventy days
Cos there's nothing, nothing you can't teach me
That I can't learn from Mr Hathaway
I didn't get a lot in class
But I know it don't come in a shot glass
They tried to make me go to rehab but I said no, no, no
Yes I've been black but when I come back you'll know, know know
I don't got the time
And if my daddy thinks I'm fine
You tried to make me go to rehab but I won't go, go, go
The man said why you think you here?
I said I got no idea
I'm gonna, gonna lose my baby
So I always keep a bottle near
He said I just think you're depressed
Yes me, baby, and the rest
They tried to make me go to rehab but I said no, no, no
Yes I've been black but when I come back you'll know, know know
I don't got the time
And if my daddy thinks I'm fine
You tried to make me go to rehab but I won't go, go, go
I don't ever want to drink again
I just, ooh I just need a friend
I'm not gonna spend ten weeks
And have everyone think I've gone mad
And it's not just my pride
It's just til these tears have dried
They tried to make me go to rehab but I said no, no, no
Yes I've been black but when I come back you'll know, know know
I ain't got the time
And if my daddy thinks I'm fine
You tried to make me go to rehab but I won't go, go, go
is, too.
Either a suicide or an overdose (in itself a kind of suicide,) I imagine.
May she rest in peace.
Regards,
John |
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Dedicated
Joined: 18 May 2007 Posts: 972 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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The world has lost a once-in-a -generation talent and it is a darker place for it. That she joins the "Forever 27 club" of musical talents who died at the same age, and is now in the company of Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison and Kurt Cobain , is no comfort.
Such a waste of raw talent. |
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scot47
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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Personally I do not care that some over-rated cokehead overdosed. |
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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Dear scot47,
"No man is an island, entire of itself. Every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friends or of thine own were. Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls it tolls for thee." |
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Sashadroogie
Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Johnslat
By Jove! Amy sure had a way with words! Pity that she is all donne in now.
S |
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Captain_Fil
Joined: 06 Jan 2011 Posts: 604 Location: California - the land of fruits and nuts
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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As ESL teachers, we are not making millions.
But we should be glad that we are not rich and famous drug-addicts.
Let us count our blessings!
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sheikh radlinrol
Joined: 30 Jan 2007 Posts: 1222 Location: Spain
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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johnslat wrote: |
Dear scot47,
"No man is an island, entire of itself. Every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friends or of thine own were. Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls it tolls for thee." |
Paul Simon didn�t agree. �I am a rock, I am an island� And I prefer Simon to Donne. |
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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Dear sheik,
But Mr. Simon doesn't like it too much:
"In interviews, Simon has said that this (I Am a Rock) is one of his two least favorite of his own songs (the other is The Dangling Conversation). Perhaps the severity of the isolation imagery is too harsh. Perhaps it simply makes no sense to create a character who so purposefully isolates himself after all the warnings, all album long, about the effects-- from societal breakdown to suicide-- of such a self-imposed hermit-state.
We can only hope for this depressed, disheartened character's sake that he takes his own "womb" imagery to heart-- that his solitary confinement is temporary, and that he emerges from it with a sense of birth and life and a connection with the world. To remain in exile within society would be, to borrow a phrase, most peculiar."
http://paulsimonsongs.blogspot.com/2009/12/i-am-rock.html
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John |
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scot47
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:14 am Post subject: |
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The Cult of the Celebrity is one of the features of modern 'Civilisation' that I find repellent. |
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eurobound
Joined: 04 Apr 2011 Posts: 155
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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johnslat wrote: |
Dear sheik,
But Mr. Simon doesn't like it too much:
"In interviews, Simon has said that this (I Am a Rock) is one of his two least favorite of his own songs (the other is The Dangling Conversation). Perhaps the severity of the isolation imagery is too harsh. Perhaps it simply makes no sense to create a character who so purposefully isolates himself after all the warnings, all album long, about the effects-- from societal breakdown to suicide-- of such a self-imposed hermit-state.
We can only hope for this depressed, disheartened character's sake that he takes his own "womb" imagery to heart-- that his solitary confinement is temporary, and that he emerges from it with a sense of birth and life and a connection with the world. To remain in exile within society would be, to borrow a phrase, most peculiar."
http://paulsimonsongs.blogspot.com/2009/12/i-am-rock.html
Regards,
John |
But The Dangling Conversation is a beautiful song |
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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Dear eurobound,
I like it, too - but here's what Mr. Simon thought:
"Simon explained that he did not like this song because he felt it sounded like a college student wrote it."
"But it could just have easily been because it was hard to talk about, well, not talking about things."
But then, maybe I've never outgrown being sophmoric
Regards,
John |
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eurobound
Joined: 04 Apr 2011 Posts: 155
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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johnslat wrote: |
Dear eurobound,
I like it, too - but here's what Mr. Simon thought:
"Simon explained that he did not like this song because he felt it sounded like a college student wrote it."
"But it could just have easily been because it was hard to talk about, well, not talking about things."
But then, maybe I've never outgrown being sophmoric
Regards,
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Interesting, thanks.
Although the references to Dickinson/Frost have always grated a little with me, this...
'Like a poem poorly written
We are verses out of rhythm
Couplets out of rhyme...'
...gets me every time |
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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Dear eurobound,
Loves those lines - and serendipitously enough (or did you plan it?) your addition rhymed:
"Couplets out of rhyme...'"
...gets me every time
Regards,
John |
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