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MotherF · Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:09 pm Post subject:

Last weeks someone in real life asked me about the "green" party. I laughed because they are such a joke. And today a news article explaining why popped up on google Mexico news. I thought it might be of interest to those following this thread.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/06/20/2858848/mexicos-green-party-focuses-more.html

Isla Guapa · Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:13 pm Post subject:

Phil_K · Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 2041 Location: A World of my Own

Interesting point from that article:

"Do you know why the Greens are supporting Pe�a Nieto? Why they say they want to deliver free medicines? It's because the owners of the Greens have franchises and are in the business of medicine," L�pez Obrador said, speaking of the PRI's candidate, Enrique Pe�a Nieto.

I though that was a mistake at first as it goes on to mention various pharmacies including "Similares", which is well-know to be the business of Victor G�nzalez (Dr. Simi). A quick check on Wikipedia confirms his full name to be Victor G�nzalez Torres... and the founder of PVEM to be Jorge G�nzalez Torres.

Interesting, I never knew that! Surprised

LATER EDIT: Spanish Wikipedia confirms they are brothers.

MotherF · Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:12 pm Post subject:

And that's the issue they really seem to be pushing with radio and TV spots.

Privitization of the health system even in a tiny part like that is not the way to go--just look to the US for an example of how well that has worked. Rolling Eyes

Last election they also wanted vales for English and computing classes for public school students. At first that might sound good to English teachers, but that idea has all kinds of problems--what language schools would give these classes? what kind of quality garuntee can the tax payers expect on their investment? There are a few language schools in my town and none are worth the price of classes. Kids would know no more English, tax payer money would be wasted, the only benefit would be to language school owners.

MotherF · Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:22 pm Post subject:

The LA Times has had some interesting articles on the election, Here's one on Mexicans in the US that addresses their voting rights and interest in the election. Gives more food for thought on the whether or not someone should be allowed to vote in two countries. Certainly it is possible for a dual citizen to maintain close ties and interest in two countries. One can be a land owner and a tax payer two countries, so to me, if a person met the conditions each country sets out concerning who it gives the right to vote too, then there is no moral problem. (as was suggested earlier in this thread)

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-mexican-migrant-voters-20120615,0,6129444.story

Dragonlady · Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:09 am Post subject:

Let's not forget Chuckie's mom..

The power of Mexico�s teachers union has few parallels in the world, and its chief, La Maestra � �The Teacher� � as Elba Esther Gordillo is known, wields influence far beyond the sphere of education. Indeed, her union began its own political party in 2005, the National Alliance, and it now has five deputies and four senators in Congress. Its candidate in the July 1 elections polls in fourth place. The union wields its muscle to protect teachers, not to improve education. By some estimates, it has taken 21,000 teachers out of the classroom to handle union business, organize political rallies, chauffeur union leaders and broker the buying and selling of teaching jobs.
http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2012/06/16/2559779/mexicos-subpar-schools-put-shackles.html#storylink=cpy

Significantly, the PRI�s 2012 candidate, Enrique Pe�a Nieto, is the only one of those seeking the presidency who hasn�t pledged to dump Gordillo on taking office.
http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2012/06/16/2559778/union-boss-elba-esther-gordillo.html#storylink=cpy

DL
BTW I have a great pic of Elba and Pe�a dancing and whispering who's plastic surgeon is better/cheaper... but can't figure out how to post it Mad

BadBeagleBad · Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:23 pm Post subject:

MotherF · Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:45 pm Post subject:

Well I imagine they did their homework in L.A. Razz

One thing I thought while reading it which wasn't addressed---can you use an expired IFE credencial to vote from abroad? While I'm willing to bet most Mexicans in the US do have one, it might not still be good if they have been in the US more than 10 years.

notamiss · Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:56 pm Post subject:

Samantha · Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 2038 Location: Mexican Riviera

Here is an article on the subject.
http://www.aldiatx.com/news/2012/jan/21/se-apuntan-pocos-mexicanos-voto-extranjero/

I just had to share this one:
http://www.hispanicallyspeakingnews.com/notitas-de-noticias/details/no-cuchi-cuchi-withholding-sex-to-get-the-vote-in-mexican-presidential-poli/16669/

Phil_K · Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 2041 Location: A World of my Own

How about this for a bit of scandalous gossip!

(Fluent Spanish necessary)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9kmCJq1xvWw

MotherF · Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:12 pm Post subject:

So to vote from abroad Mexicans had to register before Jan 15th--that makes it no surprise so few actually did. Laughing

Phil I can't load the video at work, but the comments are priceless!

Dragonlady

As (I suspect) the majority of us here in the Caf� are English instructors, how important do you think it is for the president of Mexico to speak English?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2--GhXBwB7U

DL