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BadBeagleBad



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil_K wrote:
I like Peņa Nieto's:

"Como Presidente, mi compromiso es..." (or something similar, but in present tense!) Have I missed something?


Mi comprometo y cumplo, more or less, I make promises and keep them. But what???? Even the Milenio is making fun of him, saying not only does he not have a Plan B, he doesn't even have a Plan A.
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Phil_K



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The phrase he used was if he already WERE president - completely in present tense.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pena Nieto has it, hands down! The PAN has had 12 years to show what they can do. They can do nothing. From Monterrey to the border with Laredo, Texas for example, there is no control by the government. Gangs and or cartels stops buses a lot and take some of the people. Cars as well. What's the body count now for this so-called drug war? 50,000??

So the PRI was bad in the past, who cares! Look at Mexico today. Gangs and cartels are running the show to the north and it's only a matter of time before it spreads.

Viva Pena Nieto! Viva PRI!! Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...and what will Peņa Nieto do differently?
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Enchilada Potosina



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil_K wrote:
...and what will Peņa Nieto do differently?

What he's told to do.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil_K wrote:
...and what will Peņa Nieto do differently?

Hopefully he would do everything differently than he did as governor!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MotherF wrote:
Phil_K wrote:
...and what will Peņa Nieto do differently?

Hopefully he would do everything differently than he did as governor!


Wow. Like the PAN is run by intelligent people. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Enchilada Potosina wrote:
Phil_K wrote:
...and what will Peņa Nieto do differently?

What he's told to do.


Right!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EFLeducator wrote:
Enchilada Potosina wrote:
Phil_K wrote:
...and what will Peņa Nieto do differently?

What he's told to do.

Right!

And in response to 'Right!'... she says "but, not by the people, and... this is a good thing?"

DL
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me das pena Nieto...protests while touring Oaxaca.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psTaEu8uqaw&sns=fb
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MotherF



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The LA Times had a interested article in their evening edition yesterday,

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-mexico-politics-20120413,0,5697180.story

in English--for the Spanish impared.
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Phil_K



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dragonlady wrote:
EFLeducator wrote:
Enchilada Potosina wrote:
Phil_K wrote:
...and what will Peņa Nieto do differently?

What he's told to do.

Right!

And in response to 'Right!'... she says "but, not by the people, and... this is a good thing?"

DL


Possibly yes, as the majority of people (in general, and in all countries) have very little idea of what is good for the country as a whole, only what is good for themselves. Cruel but true (or should that be "fair & balanced") Wink

On the other hand...

The politicians don't either!

I've always advocated limited voting rights, as existed in the UK in 18th and 19th centuries (although I'd include selected women as well as selected men, of course!) Very Happy
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil_K wrote:

Possibly yes, as the majority of people (in general, and in all countries) have very little idea of what is good for the country as a whole, only what is good for themselves. Cruel but true (or should that be "fair & balanced") Wink


The tragedy of the commons...

Phil_K wrote:
On the other hand...

The politicians don't either!

I've always advocated limited voting rights, as existed in the UK in 18th and 19th centuries (although I'd include selected women as well as selected men, of course!) Very Happy


You've been reading Plato's The Republic, haven't you?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Fraid not, though I should! More like Kirkland's "Blueprint for the World", but I haven't got around to writing it yet!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can write the modern update...

The Republic is a good read and includes the allegory of the cave, bringing us back to education.
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