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Romney the next President?
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Cool Teacher



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come on Barakc Obaama You can do it! Cool

Win the election! Cool
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Cool Teacher,

Well, Newt thinks it's a done deal:

"Errant Gingrich Email: 'Obama Is Going to Win' "

http://news.yahoo.com/errant-gingrich-email-obama-going-win-174518235.html

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John
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rawera



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Candidates sell their list serve to advertisers.... LOL, America.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No one really knows who is going to win.

Some say Obama will win. http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

Others say that Romney will win. Possibly, in a landslide.
http://www.redstate.com/2012/10/31/on-polling-models-skewed-unskewed/
http://washingtonexaminer.com/barone-going-out-on-a-limb-romney-wins-handily/article/2512470#.UJTrGMVZU2Q

We won't know until Election Day.

Or, the day after. Or, weeks later.

Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Captain_Fil,

Conservatives say Romney will win.

Liberals say Obama will win.

Ho Hum - nothing to see here. Move along.

But please let us know when you get a link to, say, Nancy Pelosi, saying that Romney will win. Very Happy

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John
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Captain_Fil



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear John,

Okay, my friend. Here it is...

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82606.html

Regards,
CF

Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CF, you're citing Faux news. Shocked Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear spiral,

Not only is it Fox, it's from Oct. 18th.

The latest from Ohio:
22 hours ago
CNN Poll: Obama 50% – Romney 47% in Ohio

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/category/polls/
GObama

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John
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Cool Teacher



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnslat wrote:
Dear Cool Teacher,

Well, Newt thinks it's a done deal:

"Errant Gingrich Email: 'Obama Is Going to Win' "

http://news.yahoo.com/errant-gingrich-email-obama-going-win-174518235.html

Regards,
John


Yeah, but Newt Giongrich is known to get things wrong sometimes. Shocked
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choudoufu



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain_Fil wrote:
One week from now, the election will be over!

Very Happy


or not........

NYS Board Of Elections: It’s Possible Voting May Be Permitted Beyond Tuesday

If Turnout Is Less Than 25% Of Registered Voters, Second Day Could Happen

"...Any second day would have to be scheduled within 20 days...."


http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/11/02/nys-board-of-elections-its-possible-voting-may-be-permitted-beyond-tuesday/

[how appropriate......voting on turkey day]
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe it's just me, but this seems a little, well, creepy:

Romney Records Videos of His Staffers While They Sleep

"Over the weekend, he took out his iPhone and began to surreptitiously record video of his aides asleep in their seats. As he prowled the cabin, laughing quietly to himself, he seemed to understand that come Tuesday, win or lose, this chapter of his life would be over."

The reaction to this anecdote at The Atlantic Wire was split along gender lines, with women aghast at its creepiness, and men responding more like, "Huh, that's sort of a bro-y thing to do." Nevertheless, the paragraph gets reflects a question that has obsessed political reporters this presidential campaign and doesn't seem to have been answered: Who is the real Mitt Romney? (These are all different stories at different publications: "The Dark Side of Mitt Romney," "The Real Mitt Romney," "The Real Mitt Romney," "Who Is the Real Mitt Romney?" "Understanding the Real Mitt Romney," "Presidential, Sure, but Who Is the Real Mitt Romney?" "Will the Real Mitt Romney Please Stand Up?" "Will the Real Mitt Romney Please Stand Up?" The book The Real Romney, written by Boston Globe reporters, was released this year.)
In the context of the hunt for Romney's realness, that Times paragraph, the final detail in one of the final campaign stories, has two distinct parts: There is the factual observation -- Romney chuckling to himself while taping sleeping staffers -- and there is the speculation about what Romney was thinking while he did it -- a nostalgic recognition that their time together was almost over. But we don't actually know that's what Romney was thinking. Maybe he was thinking, "Haha, they snore. This will look awesome on Instagram." Or maybe, "He's clearly in REM sleep because I can see his eyelids move." Or maybe, "Fools, they know not how vulnerable they are." The Times reports that even some aides never figured out what was going on inside his head:

Two years into the race, Mr. Romney’s interior life remains something of a mystery — not just to voters but even to some of his aides. He seems capable of truly unwinding only in the company of his family. He eschews the raucous staff dinners and late-night strategy huddles that are a staple of campaign life. At night, he sometimes eats alone in his hotel room, savoring his solitude over takeout that aides order from nearby restaurants.

The Times' corresponding story about President Obama portrays him much less mysteriously. Obama, in the Times' telling, is getting sentimental about his last campaign, and a little post-modern about it:

"I was backstage with David Plouffe," Mr. Obama told the crowd, referring to his political guru, who looked surprised as he stood offstage. "And we were talking about how, as the campaign goes on, we’ve become less relevant. I’m sort of a prop in the campaign…"

http://news.yahoo.com/romney-records-videos-staffers-while-sleep-140656429.html


But hey, maybe it's just harmless fun.

Regards,
John
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Care to make a prediction?

Here's an interactive electoral college vote map...you pick the winner by swing states and see who wins.

I have Obama winning 286 to 252...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19794259
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trouble for Obama...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20201749

Quote:
Mr President, you may as well give up now.

You may have Nate Silver and other pollsters calling the election in your favour but the Redskins Rule has been just as reliable over the years in predicting the outcome.

Since 1940, the outcome of the Washington Redskins last home game before the election has correctly predicted the outcome of the presidential election 17 out of 18 times.

If the Redskins lose, the challenger wins. If the Redskins win, the incumbent wins.

On Sunday, the Redskins lost 21-13 to the Carolina Panthers. The outcome bodes well for the Romney campaign, especially as the Redskins were the favourites to win.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My "cautiously optimistic" tally: Obama: 277; Romney: 261

Actually, I suppose I should call it my "cautiously pessimistic" tally since I gave Romney the benefit of the doubt in two or three swing states that (I think) will go for Obama.

Here are some polls

Electoral Vote Final Prediction:
Obama: 290 Romney: 248

http://race42012.com/category/2012-electoral-college-projection/

ROMNEY 235

OBAMA 303 ✓

http://electoralmap.net/2012/intrade.php

Add it all up and the final tally is Obama 277, Romney 261.

He agrees with me, but the Examiner is a "Republican" paper,

http://washingtonexaminer.com/prediction-obama-wins-narrow-electoral-college-victory/article/2512619#.UJgQsYVabTM

Obama: 301. Romney: 231

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

My "more realistic tally" - Obama: 287 Romney 251 (but I could be off by 10, either way. Still, either way, Obama wins.

Regards,
John
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Guy,

Ah, but welcome to the 21st century:

Twenty-first century

In 2000, the Redskins would begin what would become a four game losing streak with retrospect to the rule when they lost to the Titans. George W. Bush would end up defeating Al Gore in the electoral college, but would lose the popular vote. This would cause problems for the original version of the rule after the 2004 election.

In 2004, the Redskins lost their last home game before the presidential election, indicating the incumbent should have lost; however, George W. Bush (the incumbent) went on to defeat John Kerry. Steve Hirdt, credited with the discovery of the rule, then modified it to refer not to the incumbent party in the White House but to the party that last won the popular vote. In the election in 2000, Al Gore won the popular vote, and thereby the revised Redskin Rule has been upheld.[2]

In 2008, the Redskins lost to the Pittsburgh Steelers, thereby predicting a win for Illinois Senator Barack Obama over Arizona Senator John McCain because George W. Bush won the popular vote in 2004.[1]

On November 4, 2012, the Redskins lost against the Carolina Panthers. It was the last home game for the Redskins before the 2012 Presidential Election, which will take place on November 6. If the Redskins Rule holds true in the upcoming election, it predicts a loss for incumbent Barack Obama against challenger Mitt Romney.[3]

The revision to the rule ("Redskins Rule 2.0") states that "when the popular vote winner does not win the election, the impact of the Redskins game on the subsequent presidential election gets flipped. So, with that, the Redskins' loss in 2004 signaled that the incumbent would remain in the White House."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redskins_Rule

Regards,
John
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