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ARAMCO - I give up!
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posh



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was always the irony with Aramco - a contractor's salary was higher than an Aramcon's, but only slightly. The Aramcons got a much better deal in terms of accommodation and they had a car with Aramco written on the side. They could use Aramco aeroplanes. They also got a pension if they spent their lives in the desert and I imagine most of that went on bills for psychiatric treatment.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also think they want newbies. Had a friend with over a decade experience and MA apply. No interview. Friend of a friend who had a fake MA and got fired from his job here in Asia and whose CV wasn't good at all, ta-da: got an interview. Didn't get hired, but still, got the interview.
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Imdramayu



Joined: 09 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:46 am    Post subject: More friend stories.... Reply with quote

A friend works for a contractor for Aramco for 10 years. Because his contractor won't "release" him, he can't apply to become a direct hire. The contractor has made promises from the very beginning but nothing. It is so unfair for him. His supervisor there loves him and is trying to arrange things so he can become a direct hire.

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airapets



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:29 am    Post subject: Newbies . . .? Reply with quote

Most of the teachers here have at least a decade's worth of experience. Nearly all have either diploma or Masters level TEFL/TESOL/EFL qualifications and a few have PHDs.

To be certain, there are one or two who only have four or five years of experience teaching(this being the minimum amount).

What I say is only true for one of the ITCs, admittedly. I cannot tell you about the qualifications and experience of the faculty of the other ITCs.
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Imdramayu



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 5:29 pm    Post subject: CPP & academic standards Reply with quote

I gather from friends that CPP hires English teachers with plenty of experience teaching in a Western university -- not a university in Gulf. I've heard the issue is academic standards. When teaching in the West, high academic standards are maintained (not in just name alone).

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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Imdramayu,

"I've heard the issue is academic standards. When teaching in the West, high academic standards are maintained (not in just name alone)."

Gotta love the irony here - as though it's the TEACHERS who are responsible for "not maintaining high academic standards." What a HOOT!!!!

Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

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John
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Imdramayu



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 5:47 pm    Post subject: It's a bummer Reply with quote

Yes, it is a bummer that teachers who have taught in the Gulf are the fall guys for the not stellar maintenance of academic standards. Even though it is the choices that the admin makes, we have to pay for it with the inability to get jobs elsewhere and the lack of academic respect we gain.

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dr. caligari



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ultraman111 wrote:
The 3 technical questions I was asked at Aramco interview were;

Give an example of some modal verbs for advice.

Explain the structure/formation of the unreal conditional.


and I forget the third one atm.....


Is this for real? My wife has a Ph.D. in TEFL and knew these. Lacking background, it doesn't seem to me like knowing these terms would make anyone a better teacher.

If nothing else, it makes me want to hit the grammar books harder.

caligari
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scot47



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before planning on ARAMCO I suggest a viewing of "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre"
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear scot47,

Movies? We don' need no stinkin' movies. Very Happy

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John
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scot47



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well read the novel by Ben Traven ( first published 1927)
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sicklyman



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dr. caligari wrote:
ultraman111 wrote:
The 3 technical questions I was asked at Aramco interview were;

Give an example of some modal verbs for advice.

Explain the structure/formation of the unreal conditional.


and I forget the third one atm.....


Is this for real? My wife has a Ph.D. in TEFL and knew these. Lacking background, it doesn't seem to me like knowing these terms would make anyone a better teacher.

If nothing else, it makes me want to hit the grammar books harder.

caligari

ermm... any TEFLer worth their weight will be able to answer these questions in their sleep. Trust me, the Aramco interview will put you through your grammar paces to a far deeper level than this. The only question I failed to answer in my interview was "How many cases are there in English?" I said two. There are three.

What you teach and the students are tested on at Aramco ITCs is heavy on grammar. Students know this and, consequently, respect any teacher who knows their stuff, can break it down and communicate it well to students and can field their questions in class because that gives them confidence when facing their tests.

Yes, caligari, I think you're wise to hit the grammar books if you want to work at Aramco.
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CANDLES



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SM.....

What are 'cases'?

Sad
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DLIguy



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are, actually, four...if you include the vocative.
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CANDLES



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah! Had to look it up myself. So won't be going to Aramco then!!!!

Must have real 'bright' students there, unlike the rest of us slogging away with - I am, he/she is, they are..... crap! Evil or Very Mad

Actually thank goodness! Embarassed
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