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American with UK degree: SACM-US involved?

 
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Karitos



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 5:52 pm    Post subject: American with UK degree: SACM-US involved? Reply with quote

I'm an American getting my MA in Applied Linguistics and Teaching English in the UK. I intend to work in KSA upon completion of my degree next year.

My question is this: I assume that my MA will validated by the Cultural Mission in the UK, not the USA, since it's a UK degree. So will I have that validation done, and then just simply include that validation in my visa packet to the embassy in the USA? I.e., will I bypass dealing with the SACM-USA entirely? Or will I still have to submit to them too?
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RustyShackleford



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SACM UK basically would give your degree the "all-clear" so when you submit to SACM-US they know you're not giving them a piece of paper. Give SACM UK a call about the procedure and they should get back you - I've heard good things about them. On the other hand, SACM US is a total mess you'll probably never get a hold on..
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you haven't done so already, definitely get a CELTA or equivalent TEFL qualification to go along with your MA in Applied Linguistics and Teaching English. However, if your degree program includes a supervised teaching practice component, a cert won't be necessary.

FYI:
UK: Saudi Arabia Cultural Bureau (SACB)
US: Saudi Arabian Cultural Mission (SACM)
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sent SACM about 8 emails back in July asking questions about the process. Each and every email was replied to with an email that had attached the degree authorization document and nothing, not a word, in the body. Every single time. I got 8 copies of the authorization request if anyone wants one.

I should also say that my MA (which isn't technically finished) is also from a British University. I didn't even mention it during the process and neither did they.
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Karitos



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomad soul wrote:
If you haven't done so already, definitely get a CELTA or equivalent TEFL qualification to go along with your MA in Applied Linguistics and Teaching English. However, if your degree program includes a supervised teaching practice component, a cert won't be necessary.

FYI:
UK: Saudi Arabia Cultural Bureau (SACB)
US: Saudi Arabian Cultural Mission (SACM)


Thanks for the FYI. I thought there was a difference but couldn't remember what it was.

I completed my CELTA earlier this year (my MA does not have a practical component, because it's required that you have 3 years of teaching experience to get into the program).

Kimchidon wrote:
I sent SACM about 8 emails back in July asking questions about the process. Each and every email was replied to with an email that had attached the degree authorization document and nothing, not a word, in the body. Every single time. I got 8 copies of the authorization request if anyone wants one.

I should also say that my MA (which isn't technically finished) is also from a British University. I didn't even mention it during the process and neither did they.


So you have your MA from a UK university, but you only supported your BA for SACM approval? I would be doing the opposite.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RustyShackleford wrote:
SACM UK basically would give your degree the "all-clear" so when you submit to SACM-US they know you're not giving them a piece of paper. Give SACM UK a call about the procedure and they should get back you - I've heard good things about them. On the other hand, SACM US is a total mess you'll probably never get a hold on..


Not my recent experience with the SACB in London. They take ages and are, in the words of my agent,"totally incompetent"

I'm sure some get lucky with time and some don't. I was one of the ones who didn't get lucky.
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RustyShackleford



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good to know. I was basing my opinion from what I've heard colleagues say and the utter silence from SACM US. Figured since SACM Spain was actually helpful and what I've heard, thought optimism would be okay. Oh well.
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