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[sharter]

The lifestyle in North Korea is probably much better!!

[EricCC]

[CamTam]

It depends if you work for the oil industry or the government universities. Most recruits, these days, end up in the Preparatory Year Program through a recruiter. If that is the case, the average salary is about 3200 US per month with accommodations and transportation already included. If you work for the oil companies, the chances are good, you would make about double that. Your target of 4000 US per month is not entirely unreasonable, but these days, teachers in Saudi are making less than those who came here in previous years.

[EricCC]

[ultraman111]

Yep....

I am awaiting clearance for a job ......

Double is about right.....cheap accomodation....secure compound and a flight home every year worked.

[EricCC]

[naturegirl321]

[scot47]

If you are expecting students who will take responsibility for their own learning and developm,ent you will have to look very long and very hard in KSA.

It is ALL about getting grades and passing exams. The teacher is an authority figure and in a central place.

That is why strategies involving individualistic, student-centred learning rarely work in this culture.

But Saudi students CAN and DO learn. Some of them. Sometimes.

[veiledsentiments]

[scot47]

CCL is a RECRUITER. HAK (or Hakka ?) one of the many contractors. One oputfits recruits you, butyou sign your indentures with another, who then farms you out to ARAMCO.

Turbo-capitalism, Saudi style !

[bulgogiboy]

[scot47]

I do not know ANYWHERE that fits these requirements of the poster

'Anyone know of good companies or organizations to apply to? I hope to make 4K USD a month, have housing paid, and work with students who take some ownership over their learning. I come to work ready to teach and am more than willing to adjust to any new company / organization (I'm teachable despite having "experience").'

MAYBE in the Big Rock Candy Mountain ?

[Davai!!]

OP-

-Do you have a 120 hour Teacher training course (CELTA/TEFL)? This is required for a visa. No certificate, no job.

-Is your MA in TEEL from a brick-and-mortar institution? An MA/MS is not required but if yours is online/distance learning it won't count.

-With a CELTA/TEFL cert. and a regular Master's and your experience you should get a starting salary of about $3500 US + housing, flights, transpo, visa. With a CELTA/TEFL and no Master's, it will be about $3000 starting.

At some schools, you may get a little opportunity for overtime. (NOT guaranteed) You might also get a side job at night or do privates. This may get you up to the $4000 you require.

(My experience is based on Prep Year programs, for example at KSU - EDEX/ICEAT)

Also, be prepared for a major delay in visa processing. Mine took 6 weeks after the initial date I was promised. Basically a loss of $5000!!

-If you are American, consider the Income Based Repayment plan for your student loans. You pay 10% of your salary over $16500. (Poverty level x 1.5) So, if you make 40,000 per year at your job, you pay $2350 per year in student loans, so $200/month. Any remainder after 20 years is forgiven!

[currentaffairs]

Money not everything but you can make enough here to pay off your loans. I have two outstanding student loans that I will pay off -finally-. It is very manageable if you get any half decent university job.

Seems to be the average is around 3400 US Dollars per month with accommodation and transport included. You can make a little more with a MA.

If you are a direct hire then this figure will go up but not by too much, I think. You will get a lot more holiday, though.

The Aramco deal seems to be dependent on who you go through. I have heard of teachers getting around the same figure as above or less.

Concerning the students, as others have pointed out, they will need managing and you have to be on top of them constantly because they are late, lazy, disinterested and a rabble at times. I taught in UK schools and classroom management is easier, but it is not a cakewalk and student motivation is often quite low.

[jargonscott]