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[disraeli123]

Hello Guy, Thanks for telling me about the polls although I already knew about the African- American poll numbers not good at all, but not surprising. In 2008 I do not remember exactly, but i believe John McCain won only 9% of the African-American vote. It isn't surprising that Romney's totals would be less although I doubt it will be 0% more like 5 or 6% maybe 1 percentage point less. As far as polls go most of the polls you are seeing are weighted 6 to 9% more with democratic voters over republican voters as you probably already know only 2 pollsters do not over sample they are Zogby and Rassmusen. Like I said to the rest of the "Wolf Pack" ignore me think of me as a right winger we'll see come November. By the way there were 2 highly accomplished Africa-Americans who spoke at the RNC so not all African Americans are voting for Obama. If you didn't see it they were Condi Rice and Mia Love. As far as you making fun of an American icon like Clint Eastwood you didn't get the skit he was making fun of Obama and making a point that as he said"We meaning the people own the U.S.A. and politicians are our employees and when they don't do the job we have to let them go". He was advocating the firing of Obama. I'll take Clint on his worse days over Obama on his best day

[Guy Courchesne]

[disraeli123]

Enjoy your laughter!! He may have flubbed some of his lines, but he is still Clint Eastwood and his point was YES understood by the people of the U.S. make fun and laugh all you want. Someone like him has more influence than 100 Obamas. Like I said people who are not left of center are given short shrift here. By the way no one ever mentioned the Afghan war or blaming said war on anyone, but of course trying to distract is easier than really going to the substance of my post. You skipped over what I wrote about the polls as I said before Facts are stubborn things especially since there is historic patterns to how Americans vote and how the lamestream media tries to distort the facts. See Rasmussen and the Zogby polls also check the 1948, 1960 and especially 1980 election results and the polls leading up to these elections they might be revealing to you telling you something about this election, but I'm just a right wing kook who would listen to me. Again enjoy your laughter. 11/6/2012 is coming and we'll see who is the kook. I hope that you will allow me the same kind of laughter election night it should be a barrel of laughs

[Guy Courchesne]

It was enjoyable to get some laughs out of Clint...Romney being about as lively as half a broomstick.

Now if only Bachmann or Cain had won the nomination. Neither of those two would ever be upstaged by an empty chair.

[Isla Guapa]

[Isla Guapa]

[disraeli123]

Guy, Enjoy your laugh at Clint Eastwood's expense it won't last long...... He expressed not so well what I believe the majority of the American people are feeling now and will feel when they vote both for Romney and a Republican Senatorial majority. You seem to think what is taking place is some sort of joke. I live in Mexico and I love it here, but I have friends and family hurting back in the U.S. people have lost their homes and life savings this is no laughing matter to any AMERICAN and Obama has no solutions. I again have no idea how old you are, so you might not get what I'm about to talk about. Reagan came into office in 1981 with an economy as bad, if not worse than today, but he had solutions that worked that put more than 15 million people to work over his 8 years in office. I know a lot of people are enjoying America's pain well when she makes her come back and make no mistake about it she will you should hope she doesn't hold a grudge against those who tried to hold her down and hurt her people.

To Isla Guapa- continue playing to the crowd. Like I said above laugh all you want. While your laughing the anger of the American people is building and I believe so is a landslide victory for Romney and the Republicans is taking shape again at this time in 1980 Carter was slightly ahead we all know how that one turned out....... Laugh and keep on laughing people who have lost everything aren't laughing they are holding their tempers till 11/6/2012 when they will take out their anger on the democrats both in the White House and primarily in the Senate, but I can see at least an additional 25 to 35 house seats in the House as well. People know when their being shafted and they know who is doing the shafting a lazy man who wants 4 more years to really stick it to the American people not happening. Keep on thinking he will win it will just make 11pm on 11/6/12 that much more delicious since that is when the polls will close on the West coast and they will call the election. Laugh, Laugh, Laugh enjoy it while it lasts, because it isn't going to last much longer.

[Guy Courchesne]

[disraeli123]

I might take myself to seriously, but I have family members suffering and that's the difference here. When I heard the stories from my parents and grandparents about the Depression I hoped I'd never have to see anything even close to that in my life well I've seen something like that and cousins of mine and even closer relatives are suffering through this. This isn't some faraway story to me or my family 3 cousins lost their jobs after 20 years of work and that has lead to them losing their homes don't talk to me about taking myself to seriously tell that to my relatives and friends who are close to having to take government assistance for the first time in their lives. When you have to accept food stamps to feed your children then talk to me and mine about being to serious. There is another side not only not taking important things seriously, but not caring about others who are hurting through no fault of their own. Like I said keep on laughing it won't last much longer.

Either you don't understand what is happening or you are just that callous about the suffering of others. My family will get through it they got through the GREAT DEPRESSION, but people who are laughing may not like the aftermath of this after as I said before, after America makes her comeback.

P.S. I hope the U.S. and it's citizens let by gones be by gones and enjoy the comeback the best way to get back at those who tried to hurt the U.S, is by enjoying the comeback to the max and let the World see it...............

[Guy Courchesne]

[disraeli123]

Guy- You said you wanted to hear what I had to say about how Reagan solved his era's economic problems. Well I PMed you and discussed that in my pm. I also, defended the so called trickle down theory which is really how capitalist economies grow. I also take offense how you describe the policies of president Reagan you obviously are to young to understand his policies, because as I described them to you they created about 15 million jobs between 1981 and 1988. I also, answered at least why the Great Depression happened in the U.S. the causes I didn't go into the policies of FDR, because that is a very long story over 2 terms, before the economy started coming back in the early 1940's. I spent time trying to answer your questions, but it seems you don't want a dialog. If you wanted it to continue you could have answered my pm with specific answers and then asked me to not send you PM's very Terse response and I quote " please don't send me pm's" no answer to my pm the information I sent in the pm nothing well again there is a pattern here whether it's you Guy or the others here never a cogent answer just don't pm me after asking me for my opinion and information. Yes, I have made assumptions about you and others from the dismissive nature of your posts and silence when it suits some of you not all. When someone sights direct sources for their information and at least in public they are not even brought up just ignored what is a person to think?? Secondly you said that "I've made no such assumptions about you-at least not in public" Well, that means things have been said about me at least by you privately so who is transparent here who at least has the guts to say what they mean and mean what they say!! I don't hide behind pm's or email to others. By the way I've said it before and I'll say it again, but I will probably be ignored again. Look up 1978 the passage of the COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT ACT under James Earl Carter. This legislation started us down the road to the 2008 collapse of the housing market. In 1997 the act was given teeth by Bill Clinton forcing banks to lower the minimum standards for mortgages this began the sub prime mortgage market. The banks fought it then decided we might as well make some money. Yes, Wall Street was at fault in this as well, but without the government enforcing the Act we never would have had a sub prime mortgage market in the first place. In 2005 GWB tried to reform the Community Reinvestment Act and he was blocked in the Senate by a Democratic filibuster lead by the former democratic Senator Chris Dodd, so until you know more about the history of the sub prime crisis and how it evolved don't go around blaming people like George W. Bush who tried to stop the disaster a little late yes, but he tried to stop it. The democrats started this train rolling then after it blew up they pointed fingers at the republicans. Just quickly banks had to lower their down payments from 20% to less than 3% down as a requirement for people before they could get a mortgage. So again I'll be ignored, because unlike others here I come armed with facts not smoke and mirrors. But I believe depending upon your response that I am wasting my time with a one way dialog where I come with facts specific historical references an I am ignored just asked to answer more questions which are again my answers ignored so unless you can come with something, better than derision and silence I think this might be my final post until at least the election where I will send just one post and, if I'm right it will be a post celebrating a victory. I don't see a reason to continue a one way dialog where I come with specifics and the rest just ignore the FACTS. You can take this or not by this time I really don't care unless you come with FACTS that blow my information away, so here's hoping, but I'm not holding my breath....................................................

P.S. The Savings and Loan debacle was also linked to the Community Reinvestment Act it was the original part of the banking industry that was targeted by the Act giving mostly Southern and Western Savings and Loans ways to make risky investments the mortgage end of the Act had no enforcement language until 1997 when it was revised by Clinton again 2 specific citations of 2 financial problems, but I'll be ignored again.

[geaaronson]

disraeli

As for Reagan, let�s keep in mind that yes, he did come into power at a time of extreme inflation. The oil crisis and its rising costs as Iran shut off the spigot for the rest of the world caused havoc with the world�s economy. In the summer of �80 the cost of a gallon in Sweden was $5. That was the case everywhere.

But when Reagan came in we had a recession, for a short period there was a upward tic and then after the massive tax cuts we went back into a more serious recession in 82 with 10.8% unemployment. It took a whole decade to get back to full employment. So what was so great about the 80�s economy?

Both economic meltdowns, in 29 and in 08 were caused by rampant speculation fueled by easy credit terms for the capitalist class, caused by rampant laissez faire, business deregulation federal practices. Check out the partial repeal of the 1999 act, engineered by Clinton�s Summers, the 1937 Steagall-Wagner Act that effectively blocked the wildcat investment of investment houses in the home mortgage market. This is deregulation at its worst and with the abnormally low interest rates of the early 2000�s fueled the subprime bubble. These are the very financial shenaninigans advocated by the trickle down economists that caused the 2008 debacle and diehards like yourself, still don�t get.

So stop and think it through. Yes, you have our sympathy. We on the left are as much angered as you are. But we direct our anger at you people because you don�t have the sense to think through the situation and realize that you must get your TONGUES OUT OF RICH PEOPLE�S PANTS.

[disraeli123]

Gearson, You know that the left can't take it when facts are brought up. You didn't mention that defense spending coupled with the tax cuts brought down unemployment. I graduated in 1981 I know how bad unemployment was, but look at who caused that a so-called president who strangled gas distribution so people had to push their cars home. Jimmy Carter ring a bell. How about the Community Reinvestment Act as the true cause of this crisis, because it points right back to the left wing of the democratic party. People are not stupid they understand that yes some government regulation is needed, but what is happening under Obama is strangling the American economy. You see, if I have to kiss some rich persons behind for my family to have good jobs so be it. The problem is every time you restrict capital and raise taxes you are going to end up with what we have now. The problem is you and other Leftists will never understand the American people, understand economics better than the so called Liberal leftist elite who would flunk a basic economics 101 course. Even the leftist media understands that Reagan brought us back and you can't change history although it sounds as, if you'd like to, sorry the history of the 1980's shows Reagan as a great economic leader and that he brought down communism as well. You can't rewrite history.

To end this your timeline is a little off and by the way see you on 11/6/2012. I am signing off for now see you after Obama is sent to the unemployment line!!!!!

[geaaronson]

disraeli

George W. Bush cut taxes time and time again during his 8 years of presidency to the point where taxes were at the lowest abyss since WWII and it still brought down the house in a recession that verged on a Depression. Get with it. Straighten out your thinking. Stop reading the right wing drivel. They`re nincompoops.

[Guy Courchesne]

disraeli123 - no, I simply didn't want to receive unsolicited pms about how my using humor dishonours your family in some way. I never mentioned your family. But, if you really do feel strongly about the issue, I'd be happy to see the letter you fired off to the RNC after Clint Eastwood's callous use of humour in such oh so troubled times? After all, he's more influential than 100 Obamas and probably just a bit more influential than l'il old me.