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Is a PESEL necessary to sign up for ZUS?

 
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oipivo



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:05 pm    Post subject: Is a PESEL necessary to sign up for ZUS? Reply with quote

Hey guys, American here. I just signed the papers for my ZUS and they said that I have to update my account with a PESEL whenever I get one. Is it necessary? I was under the impression that it isn't needed for Americans.

Thanks!
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ecocks



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have ZUS without a PESEL.

Mine is through my company (firma that I set up) and nothing has been said about a PESEL being necessary. However, when you get your residency card it will have a PESEL which they would presumably like to have..

The American teacher in front of me at the table (also has a Polish passport) has a PESEL and the American teacher (here 5 years) on my left with a residency card has a PESEL on his card but his ZUS is through the company he works for so maybe they updated his ZUS account. Assuming I get it my accountant will do it if it needs to be done.
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scottie1113



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="ecocks"]I have ZUS without a PESEL.


the American teacher (here 5 years) on my left with a residency card has a PESEL on his card but his ZUS is through the company he works for so maybe they updated his ZUS account.


I'm the guy he's talking about. I don't have a ZUS account. I have private medical insurance in lieu of it.
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ecocks



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="scottie1113"]
ecocks wrote:
I have ZUS without a PESEL.


the American teacher (here 5 years) on my left with a residency card has a PESEL on his card but his ZUS is through the company he works for so maybe they updated his ZUS account.

I'm the guy he's talking about. I don't have a ZUS account. I have private medical insurance in lieu of it.


Sorry bud I knew you had private insurance but was thinking about pension components and thought you had a ZUS account as part of employment. My bad. I was over-focused on who gets a PESEL and how so shuldn't have thrown that out like that.
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oipivo



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys. I attempted to sign up at the ZUS office today and they said I had to have a PESEL in order to get ZUS. They let me sign up anyway with my passport, so I guess I just update the information later? They said the laws changed or something and all Americans need one now. I have no idea if it's true or not.
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ecocks



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have my ZUS report in my hand and only my NIP on it.

I do have a REGON number which may affect something somehow.


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Master Shake



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oipivo wrote:
Thanks guys. I attempted to sign up at the ZUS office today and they said I had to have a PESEL in order to get ZUS. They let me sign up anyway with my passport, so I guess I just update the information later? They said the laws changed or something and all Americans need one now. I have no idea if it's true or not.

A PESEL is a piece of cake to get. Just go to your local council offices and they'll give you one when you register at your address (zameldowanie). It takes 10 min, tops.
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oipivo



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers mastershake, I'll just go get one tomorrow.

ecocks- I think the office in Poznan is just being fussy. I have a NIP and REGON as well, but they still want the PESEL. Oh well. One more thing.
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the_roads_of_poland



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scottie1113 wrote:


I'm the guy he's talking about. I don't have a ZUS account. I have private medical insurance in lieu of it.


But how? Do you pay ZUS? What's a "ZUS account", you mean a ksiazka zdrowotna? What private medical insurance, from who? How do you get paid, umowa o something or your own company?
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ecocks



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oipivo wrote:
Cheers mastershake, I'll just go get one tomorrow.

ecocks- I think the office in Poznan is just being fussy. I have a NIP and REGON as well, but they still want the PESEL. Oh well. One more thing.


I don't think we asked for PESOL at the office where we registered the address. That was City Hall so it never occurred to me they might be able to issue it.
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