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timothypfox
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:14 am Post subject: Has Aruto Debito left Japan for good?! |
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Just curious!
This blogger refers to a Japan Times Article that mentions the following credit at the end:
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Debito Arudou is currently an affiliate scholar at the East-West Center in Honolulu. Send your comments and story ideas to [email protected] |
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Glenski
Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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timothypfox
Joined: 20 Feb 2008 Posts: 492
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, I see! That's good to hear. |
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Pitarou
Joined: 16 Nov 2009 Posts: 1116 Location: Narita, Japan
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:58 am Post subject: |
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Debito formally renounced his American citizenship. Americans don't like that kid of thing. Roaming scholar, he may be, but I think he would face some hard questions if he attempted to settle in Hawai'i permanently.
While I'm on the subject, why does "tepido.org" exist? I mean, sure, he pisses some people off, but why this active campaign against him? What motivates these people? |
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Glenski
Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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The fact that he is a rather extreme activist pisses them off. His attitude of being in people's faces (be they the racist or discriminating ones, or anyone who feels D is going too far) pisses them off. His never backing down even when proven wrong pisses them off. |
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Pitarou
Joined: 16 Nov 2009 Posts: 1116 Location: Narita, Japan
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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Glenski wrote: |
The fact that he is a rather extreme activist pisses them off. His attitude of being in people's faces (be they the racist or discriminating ones, or anyone who feels D is going too far) pisses them off. His never backing down even when proven wrong pisses them off. |
Sure ... I get why somebody would, say, write a blog post about why they find him objectionable. But tepido.org takes it to a whole new level. They're like a twisted fan club: they report on (and then trash) every detail of his life and work. How long have they kept this up? Months? Years?
In the words of Ace Ventura: obsessed much? |
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mitsui
Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 1562 Location: Kawasaki
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 1:44 am Post subject: |
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The thing is, he became a Japanese citizen so he can say what he wants.
It is odd that he gets the most criticism from people who are not Japanese citizens, and he wants life to be better for non-Japanese in this country.
Last edited by mitsui on Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:43 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Glenski
Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 2:37 am Post subject: |
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mitsui wrote: |
The thing is, he became a Japanese citizen so he can say what he wants. |
I don't understand this statement. |
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G Cthulhu
Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 1373 Location: Way, way off course.
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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Glenski wrote: |
mitsui wrote: |
The thing is, he became a Japanese citizen so he can say what he wants. |
I don't understand this statement. |
If you're not a citizen then your rights are more curtailed. You can't, for example, engage in political discussions or activities on a work or tourist visa. Granted, Jpns authorities seldom do much about the low end stuff, but they have been known to throw people out of the country for higher profile stuff. The annual dolphin kill and the protesters last year spring to mind. A couple of them were deported for, among other things, violating the conditions of their tourist visas.
Not as bad as the US and far less often applied, but Japanese citizenship does confer some extra rights that mere residence or other status doesn't give. |
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Inflames
Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 486
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:39 am Post subject: |
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G Cthulhu wrote: |
Not as bad as the US and far less often applied, but Japanese citizenship does confer some extra rights that mere residence or other status doesn't give. |
The US doesn't prohibit "political discussions" by foreigners. |
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mitsui
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:02 am Post subject: |
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If I say what I want, especially if I am critical of politics in Japan, it is inevitable that some Japanese will tell me that if I don`t like living here, why don`t I leave?
Debito gave up his citizenship to become Japanese, yet some foreigners tell him that if he doesn`t like Japan, he should leave. Leave and go where? |
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Inflames
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:24 am Post subject: |
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mitsui wrote: |
Debito gave up his citizenship to become Japanese, yet some foreigners tell him that if he doesn`t like Japan, he should leave. Leave and go where? |
Debito didn't give up his citizenship to become Japanese - he gave it up several years after because of his own actions. The Japanese government didn't force him to (and, in fact, can't). |
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Nagoyaguy
Joined: 15 May 2003 Posts: 425 Location: Aichi, Japan
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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I used to sympathize with Debito a lot more than I do now. We are in the same boat, trying to raise kids bilingually and biculturally in Japan, etc.
However, that all changed when I dared to contradict the accepted wisdom on his blog. I was banned and labelled a "heartless dick". I was also accused of applying "poor social science" in my posts.
It told me a lot about how he conducts himself and how intolerant he is of any criticism. I understand why some people would want to take him down a few pegs. |
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G Cthulhu
Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 1373 Location: Way, way off course.
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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Inflames wrote: |
G Cthulhu wrote: |
Not as bad as the US and far less often applied, but Japanese citizenship does confer some extra rights that mere residence or other status doesn't give. |
The US doesn't prohibit "political discussions" by foreigners. |
Actually it does. But like Japan, it doesn't enforce the laws very often. It was made very plain to me by USCIS that any form of political activity in the US while a PR would result in my PR being cancelled and my being deported. Moreover, the Military Commissions Act allows for the indefinite detention without charge for any non-citizen that engages in political activity in the US against their visa status. |
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G Cthulhu
Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 1373 Location: Way, way off course.
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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Inflames wrote: |
Debito didn't give up his citizenship to become Japanese - he gave it up several years after because of his own actions. The Japanese government didn't force him to (and, in fact, can't). |
I was under the impression that Japan does, in fact, require surrender of previous citizenship in order to obtain Japanese citizenship. After all, they don't allow dual citizens & taking up Jpns citizenship is one of the few instances where they can follow up on that requirement. |
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