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hippo
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 Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:27 am Post subject: CHEER SDP and AP Beijing |
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Hi
Just a public service announcement to let you know that a company called CHEER in Beijing and Shanghai, who run a course called SDP and also run AP classes, are scammers. They don't pay teachers (myself included) and have been through about 10 in a year.
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abolyach
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Location: Zhengzhou, China
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| Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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| I am in the process of negotiating a part time job with them. The contract says they pay monthly, but money can come in as late as 15 business days after completion of a full month of teaching. I want to find out more information about them. Could you elaborate on your experience. Thank you. |
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Lancy Bloom
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| I will be shot down for this by all the trols working for recruiting companies. ESL teachers need to be paid after every class. No promos, no we'll pay you when you come back from holidays. This is how Chinese business men work : money up front then I get to work. Even when you do this you will find these school owners will try to weesel out of paying We are business people. We sell the commodity of knowledge and the idea you get to test it out first is a rediculously inane insult. |
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Denim-Maniac
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@abolyach
Whilst its not a bad idea to request more information about this non-payment issue ... that would be enough for me to pass and move on to something else. Employers who get away with this kind of thing do so because they are probably quite convincing at the initial interview stage.
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| I will be shot down for this by all the trols working for recruiting companies. ESL teachers need to be paid after every class. We sell the commodity of knowledge and the idea you get to test it out first is a rediculously inane insult. |
@Lancy Bloom
Label me a troll recruiter / Chinese FAO or whatever takes your fancy but suggesting teachers should be paid after every class is advice that should be totally ignored by people seeking employment IMHO. There are very few instances of work anywhere in the world where every employee gets every wage owed after every day worked / job done. |
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abolyach
Joined: 24 Oct 2010
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| Although the timing of payments seemed suspicious at first, I managed to renegotiate the contract. I have been working with the company for about 2 months and got paid in full and on time. |
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lemak
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| Denim-Maniac wrote: |
@Lancy Bloom
Label me a troll recruiter / Chinese FAO or whatever takes your fancy but suggesting teachers should be paid after every class is advice that should be totally ignored by people seeking employment IMHO. There are very few instances of work anywhere in the world where every employee gets every wage owed after every day worked / job done. |
For a part-time "illegal" job it's completely feasible to request to be paid on the day you do the work. I always have done so, and the schools / employers I've worked for have *always* been forthcoming. Sometimes offering to pay for 5 or 10 classes in advance, which I've never been totally excited to do either for fear the students end up being "turds" and finding I've gotten myself trapped.
What kind of legal retribution do you have should after 6 weeks of part time work the school or Mumsy turn around and say they're not paying you? Gonna go to the cops?
It's different if it's your visa sponsoring full time job....then to some small degree at least you have some legal protection in case of being screwed, but in the event of an extra side job not covered by your visa..? Get paid as often as you can in my book. If the school wants/needs you they'll accept whatever payment plan you require. |
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