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johnslat



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:38 pm    Post subject: Mary/merry/marry Reply with quote

Pahk yah cah in Hahvahd Yahd.

"22 Maps That Show How Americans Speak English Totally Differently From Each Other

Everyone knows that Americans don't exactly agree on pronunciations.
Regional accents are a major part of what makes American English so interesting as a dialect.
Joshua Katz, a Ph. D student in statistics at North Carolina State University, just published a group of awesome visualizations of Professor Bert Voux's linguistic survey that looked at how Americans pronounce words. (via detsl on /r/Linguistics)
His results were first published on Abstract, the N.C. State research blog.
Joshua gave us permission to publish some of the coolest maps from his collection."



Click below to see the maps

http://www.businessinsider.com/22-maps-that-show-the-deepest-linguistic-conflicts-in-america-2013-6

Regahds, Very Happy

John
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Johnslat

Shouldn't this be on the North American board?


Best wishes

RP Sasha
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Sasha,

I take it you don't see this topic as appropriate for the General Forum, huh - unlike, say, this one?

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=101532

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John
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Johnslat

But of course. RP is a global phenomenon - the model for nearly all Anglophone countries of the Empire. Class distinction also exists everywhere in the world - with the notable exception of the Workers' Paradise.

A few regional accents and idiolects, whether from Scotland or South Dakota, are not as interesting as locals may think, and have no place on a World Forum. Hurumph!


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Sasha
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Sasha,

Ah, I see - how David Beckham's, Mick Jagger's, Prince Harry's, Maggie Thatcher's, Tony Blair's, and Geprge Osborne's accents changed/have changed has universal application. Very Happy

Class acts

Silly of me not to have seen that right off, innit? Very Happy

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John
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Johnslat

Yes, It was. Indeed! Rather!

And the topic in my thread was a general question to all posters about whether they changed their accents. 'Tis quite prevalent in EFL classrooms.

Still, I am glad to see that you have seen the error of your ways.


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Sasha
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah - so all I have to do then is ask if anyone has found that his/her RP has changed due to long periods of being away from the home environment.

Consider it done Very Happy.

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John
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haleynicole14



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was going to post this but you beat me to it. I find it super interesting, and definitely related to general English teaching, since it would be an interesting topic in a conversational or advanced English class.

This is the link to the actual study, with many more questions and maps.

http://spark-1590165977.us-west-2.elb.amazonaws.com/jkatz/SurveyMaps/
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear haleynicole14,

Hey, glad to find a kindred spirit. But I doubt Sasha will be Russian to use your link Very Happy

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John
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear all

Please remind me to post a link about the regional variation in the Welsh valleys. There's more of it than in your location. Has about as much general application, hic!


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Sasha
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sroetem



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sashadroogie wrote:
Dear all

Please remind me to post a link about the regional variation in the Welsh valleys. There's more of it than in your location. Has about as much general application, hic!


Best wishes

Sasha


Wow. I had no idea. I was always under the impression that there was more variation in dialects in the 50 states than in any other Eng speaking nation. I have been to all 50 of them, by the way. We learn something new everyday.
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The states all sound the same to me. Yet, I can tell by accent alone which village any valley lass comes from...
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surendra



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sashadroogie wrote:
The states all sound the same to me. Yet, I can tell by accent alone which village any valley lass comes from...


lol. I doubt that though. Dunno what you refer to as a "valley" but there are many I'm sure.
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Tisn't the same as a Californian Valley girl, I fer sure you.

But seriously, are posters here really trying to claim that there is more accent variety in the US than anywhere else in the anglophone world? I fear you might be in for a disappointment...have no doubts.


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spiral78



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, as a 'merican who's travelled the entire country and worked with many, many EFL teachers abroad, I can vouch that there are a lot of distinguishable accents happening around the US.

However, I've worked with mostly UK/Irish teachers for over ten years, and once one's ear is tuned to their speech, it's equally varied, without a doubt.

Anecdotal, to be sure, but I would by no means think that the US holds a special record for regional accents!
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