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Tretyakovskii



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:32 pm    Post subject: New Immigration Rules Reply with quote

Here´s the final rules, for those who´d like to have a look.

http://dof.gob.mx/nota_detalle.php?codigo=5270615&fecha=28/09/2012
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Isla Guapa



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately, this is not the final final version of the new rules and regulations. Many details are missing, such as income needed to be eligible for a rentista visa and the exact procedures for changing from temporary to permanent resident.
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Phil_K



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd love to know my situation now!

Don't pay taxes in Mexico, because my income comes from a Barbados registered company. How am I going to justify that to immigration? Shocked
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Isla Guapa



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil_K wrote:
I'd love to know my situation now!

Don't pay taxes in Mexico, because my income comes from a Barbados registered company. How am I going to justify that to immigration? Shocked


What kind of visa do you have now?
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Phil_K



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an expiring FM2 (técnico), and I qualify now for the permanent visa, having completed my FM2 time. But I still need to prove income for that. I haven't earned any income in Mexico this year, so I guess I'll just present declarations in zeros. That'll be the last time I go to immigration, so I think that should do the trick.
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Isla Guapa



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil_K wrote:
I have an expiring FM2 (técnico), and I qualify now for the permanent visa, having completed my FM2 time. But I still need to prove income for that. I haven't earned any income in Mexico this year, so I guess I'll just present declarations in zeros. That'll be the last time I go to immigration, so I think that should do the trick.


Good luck with that, Phil. If you have to prove Mexican income, how on earth can declarations in zeros meet that requirement?
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Phil_K



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe I didn't word that right! In the past, when I've renewed, they wanted to see the last tax declaration. I've submitted in zeros before without question.
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Isla Guapa



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil_K wrote:
Maybe I didn't word that right! In the past, when I've renewed, they wanted to see the last tax declaration. I've submitted in zeros before without question.


And silly me, I've actually been paying Mexican taxes all these years, so I wouldn't have problems getting my FM3 renewed. Maybe the fact that you have a Mexican wife lets you break the rules with impunity.
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Dragonlady



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isla Guapa wrote:
... Maybe the fact that you have a Mexican wife lets you break the rules with impunity.

Phil_K wrote:
...[I] Don't pay taxes in Mexico, because my income comes from a Barbados registered company...

Isla kindly expand on what rules Phil_K is breaking.

DL
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Isla Guapa



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dragonlady wrote:
Isla Guapa wrote:
... Maybe the fact that you have a Mexican wife lets you break the rules with impunity.

Phil_K wrote:
...[I] Don't pay taxes in Mexico, because my income comes from a Barbados registered company...

Isla kindly expand on what rules Phil_K is breaking.

DL


The rule that says you need to show proof you have recently paid taxes on your Mexican income when you go in to renew your visa.
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Phil_K



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dragonlady wrote:
Isla Guapa wrote:
... Maybe the fact that you have a Mexican wife lets you break the rules with impunity.

Phil_K wrote:
...[I] Don't pay taxes in Mexico, because my income comes from a Barbados registered company...

Isla kindly expand on what rules Phil_K is breaking.

DL


Yes Isla, I DO resent that comment!

My income has been variable for the last few years, and the only other occasion that I submitted a declaration in zeros to Immigration was when the requirements read "Your last tax declaration", and that month I had no Mexican income (and a declaration in zeros is a valid declaration). That they accepted it shows I did the right thing. I am now not earning ANY income from any Mexican company. Granted, I should talk to immigration about my situation, but "Breaking rules with impunity", I am most definitely not!


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Isla Guapa



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil_K wrote:
Dragonlady wrote:
Isla Guapa wrote:
... Maybe the fact that you have a Mexican wife lets you break the rules with impunity.

Phil_K wrote:
...[I] Don't pay taxes in Mexico, because my income comes from a Barbados registered company...

Isla kindly expand on what rules Phil_K is breaking.

DL


Yes Isla, I DO resent that comment!

My income has been variable for the last few years, and the only other occasion that I submitted a declaration in zeros to Immigration was when the requirements read "Your last tax declaration", and that month I had no Mexican income. That they accepted it shows I did the right thing. I am now not earning ANY income from any Mexican company. Granted, I should talk to immigration about my situation, but "Breaking rules with impunity", I am most definitely not!


I apologize for the language I used, Phil. However, I have always needed to submit proof I had recently paid taxes on my Mexican income when applying for a renewal of my FM3. I don't see how submitting proof that you hadn't paid taxes fulfills that requirement, but if INM allowed you to do that, then obviously you did nothing wrong. I myself would be very nervous about doing what you did, but that's just me.
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Phil_K



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apology accepted Wink

As far as I know, the requirement is not "proof that you have paid taxes", but that you have declared you taxes, whether there was income or not.


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Isla Guapa



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil_K wrote:
Apology accepted Wink


Thanks, and good luck with your new company.
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Isla Guapa



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil_K wrote:
Apology accepted Wink

As far as I know, the requirement is not "proof that you have paid taxes", but that you have declared you taxes, whether there was income or not.


If that's the case, then I understand how filing that you paid no taxes in a particular month wasn't a problem for you. But I would never try doing it myself. Hopefully, with the new rules going into effect soon, at least before I have to visit INM next May, I will soon become a permanent resident and not have to worry any more about filing monthly tax declarations Smile !
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