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Non-EFL related MA - any use?

 
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MichaelH



Joined: 26 Sep 2012
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Location: UK

PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:04 am    Post subject: Non-EFL related MA - any use? Reply with quote

Hello,

I'm about to take a CELTA course in the UK and look for work internationally. From browsing the forums I have the impression that most people are saying the work and career situation is not that great, earning potential limited, and career development problematic.

However, given the employment situation in the UK it is difficult to get even a minimum-wage job. I have been self-employed as a holistic therapy practitioner for a few years, supplemented by part-time retail work when available, and I'm looking for a change. Staying in the UK would probably involve aspiring to work in a supermarket if I was lucky. So my reasoning is that I have the fortunate advantage of the colonial legacy of the English language that I can use to at least have an interesting life and see some of the world. I have done a bit of work experience classroom assisting, so I know I enjoy interacting with students.

My projected plan at the moment would be to spend a couple of years teaching with the CELTA and then do a higher qualification or try and get in with the British Council somewhere interesting like Ethiopia or Nepal. Is this realistic? I don't spend much money (I can cook, I don't drink or smoke, etc.) and I have enough capital to come home and do something like a DELTA course later on.

My second question is about my academic qualifications. I have a BA in Philosophy and an MA in Social and Political Thought. Obviously I am aware that these do not qualify me in the slightest to be a good teacher, but is it possible I could use the qualifications along with the CELTA to get a better job to start with? What countries, if any, would be good places for this? (By the way, I have searched the jobs forum with the search terms 'masters', 'MA' and 'higher degree' and not found an answer).

Apologies for the length of the post, and thanks for your help.
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coledavis



Joined: 21 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Answer 1: Yes, it's fairly realistic.
Answer 2: Having a degree as well as your CELTA means first base for a range of jobs; people without a degree struggle to get a reasonable job, certainly a first job. Having a masters degree will probably not have any official effect on work, i.e. no increments, but some employers will be impressed so it may mean a slight edge over people without one. Unlike technical disciplines, I don't see your subjects as opening new doors to be brutally honest, but some of the materials would make great conversational topics (suitably adapted for the layman).
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MichaelH



Joined: 26 Sep 2012
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, that's helpful.

I never really saw teaching my MA subject as a realistic prospect, but, as you say, it might sound impressive to some people.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MichaelH wrote:
I never really saw teaching my MA subject as a realistic prospect, but, as you say, it might sound impressive to some people.

On the other hand, more often than not, employers outside your home country will have little to no understanding about certain degree majors (no matter how well the program is explained) and will tend to ignore such credentials.
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thatsforsure



Joined: 11 Sep 2012
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

teach in china at a joint us/china joint venture university program .. they honor the masters and you might get to teach a subject area and /or ESL .. they pay better and have better conditions ..
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MichaelH



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thatsforsure, do you have any links for those programs? Thanks.
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thatsforsure



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl listed them once or twice ... missouri state in dalian, fort hays state in xi'an, xi'an jiaotong liverpool in suzhou are a few
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MichaelH



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, I'll have a rummage for those.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The poster tttompatz often posts lengthy descriptions about what various qualifications will get you in various countries. Do a search on his/her name.

Otherwise, I'd suggest that instead of asking which country(ies) match your current qualifications, you say what country(ies) or region(s) of the world interest you, and let the answers come in as to whether your plan is feasible.
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