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Opinions of Ankara, Turkey?

 
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shiningstar21



Joined: 22 Aug 2012
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:39 pm    Post subject: Opinions of Ankara, Turkey? Reply with quote

I've been offered a job as a Kindergart. teacher in Ankara, Turkey with some school called Burc Akademiler.

The interview went well, and the jobs sounds good, with it payin $1,100 a month, and a free flat. Problem is, I can't find any information on the school...Has anyone heard of them?

Should i accept this offer..?
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oipivo



Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that 1,100 TL or USD? Either way that's a pretty raw deal. Anything below 3,000 TL at a private school should not even really be considered. If you're qualified it's not easy to get into a private school or university and make upwards of 3,000 a month.
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shiningstar21



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's $. Accomodation is free, which I think is pretty good? Confused
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sixthchild



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lets see the dollar rate is about 1.8 so lets be generous and double it, so thats 2.2 TL, not a lot on the face of it, the flat must be worth another 600-800tl depending on location from school and furnishings, do you get a midday meal? Any other perks?
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shiningstar21



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that money not good? I've only got a TEFL and no experience.
Yes, you get breakfast and lunch and they sort out your visa.
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billy orr



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my opinion that is a very reasonable offer that is worth accepting, shining star.
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oipivo



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are many better job options. Working at a language school with FAR less hours and much easier teaching would net you more than that salary in about 30-ish hours. Really don't take these private school jobs unless the deal is really sweet. You will work 30 times harder than others and make the same if not less money than them.

Is it a bad deal? Not totally. The flat would be nice, but the salary isn't great at all. I would really suggest exploring other options.
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sixthchild



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take what the last poster said with more than a pinch of salt. For you this is not a bad offer
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oipivo



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Again, it's not a bad deal, but it's not a good deal either. It's on the low end of middle of the road. I'm just trying to help you out. I've been here a few years and just watched five new teachers pick up jobs at private schools and are making about 3,000-3,700 TL plus residence permit, meals, etc. (no flat).

If the school seems really nice, go for it. Just trying to keep the newbies informed.
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sixthchild



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Oipivo

I was a bit puzzled by your comment that gives the language school a better review than the private school. It is a fact that most so-called language schools are very much at the bottom end of the job market in terms of earnings and job security.
In my experience only a very small number operate legally and most of their foreign teaching staff if not all do not have work permits or residence permits. Forget holidays or free meals or flight tickets or even housing allowances and when you have outlived your shelf life you will be shown the door!
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oipivo



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh language schools. You are right, most of them are big shady corporations that could give two shits about their students or teachers, but they're still not terrible jobs. For some people they end up being perfect, not many hours and decent pay. For some people private schools are far better, they want to work 40-60 hours a week. It's just personal choice. I've worked at a private school and didn't enjoy it.

There are upsides and downsides to language and private schools. It's really just luck of the draw. Two friends got hired at the same ime teaching the same grade at two different schools. One is having a nightmare of a time and the other is generally enjoying it.
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