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weigookin74
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Denim-Maniac
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I could be wrong ... but I dont imagine many teachers rent those 5500 RMB apartments in Bei Jing ... certainly not in their first year! There are jobs in Bei Jing that dont pay much more than 5500 a month! Even if you land a decent gig and you'll lose half (or more) of your salary on rent!
Find a job with housing included. |
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choudoufu
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Location: Mao-berry, PRC
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| But, what is needed to get your own place? Deposits, setting up internet, electricity, all that stuff? Also, what do people do about water? I assume it's not drinkable? Can you shower or brush your teeth with it? . |
electricity/gas/water should be connected. when you sign the lease, you
enter the numbers from the various meters in the blanks. you'll find a
bill for each of these for your apartment taped to the front door of the
stairwell every month or two or three. you can either pay it yourself,
or perhaps the landlord will collect the amount due from you. at the
end of the lease, the landlord will use the current meter numbers to
calculate the amount you owe.
but then some cities use metered cards that you insert into the meter.
in that case, you recharge the cards as necessary.
if there's no city gas, you may have to buy bottled gas. landlord can
tell you where. you pay a deposit for the tank. have the delivery
guy connect your burner and clean the jets. you probably want to
ask him to change the grungy, oil+sludge encrusted, cracking and
splitting hose before you fire it up.
water is not to be drunken, but you can shower and brush teeth. local
water shop will deliver 5-gallon bottles, usually 8-10 rmb. 35-40 rmb
deposit on the big jug. buy a hand pump for 20 rmb, or a table-top
dispenser for 100 rmb, or a water cooler dealie for 300+.
sometimes the cities are carved up into zones to determine which internet
provider will cover which areas. sometimes you get a choice. anyway,
take your passport and rental contract to the appropriate office. select
your plan, pay in advance. i was paying 900 rmb/year.
............or get uni housing, and let your fao handle it all for you. |
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weigookin74
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| Denim-Maniac wrote: |
I could be wrong ... but I dont imagine many teachers rent those 5500 RMB apartments in Bei Jing ... certainly not in their first year! There are jobs in Bei Jing that dont pay much more than 5500 a month! Even if you land a decent gig and you'll lose half (or more) of your salary on rent!
Find a job with housing included. |
Disney 12000 and 4000 RMB housing allowance. Saw some that paid straight 16000 RMB. How could anyone live in Beijing on 5 or 6 K RMB? |
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weigookin74
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| How much do deductions usually equal? Trying to figure out what is left over. Was pretty low in SK. |
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Denim-Maniac
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| weigookin74 wrote: |
Disney 12000 and 4000 RMB housing allowance. Saw some that paid straight 16000 RMB. How could anyone live in Beijing on 5 or 6 K RMB? |
Take tax from that salary and add the utilities to the rent for those apartments you were browsing, and half your salary is gone, leaving 5 or 6k a month spends. And you'll earn that salary at Disney teaching kindergarten for 30+hours a week including weekends and evenings probably. Its not the worst deal out there, but its certainly no cake walk either.
Or there may be a 5 or 6k job with half the working hours and free housing and utilities included.
edited - actually my math is a bit screwy there ... but the point remains the same. The low salary jobs may come with lower hours and free living which can make a difference to some people. |
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rogerwilco
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In China I have always lived in the free apartments provided by the schools.
All the apartments have been inside the school gates.
One benefit is that nothing has ever been stolen from me. I do not have to worry about security or my neighbors. |
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NoBillyNO
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| One benefit is that nothing has ever been stolen from me. I do not have to worry about security or my neighbors. |
In the on-campus living situations I have encountered, colleagues were my security worry. |
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DosEquisX
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When I first came here in early 2011, I only had 1 year of relevant work experience. Some people were fresh out of college with no work experience of any kind.
I echo what others say. Bounce to a less popular city (getting a job in Wuhan was super-easy despite the size of the city) and get a job there. Sometimes it's those less popular places that end up being the most fulfilling places to live. |
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weigookin74
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| Denim-Maniac wrote: |
| weigookin74 wrote: |
Disney 12000 and 4000 RMB housing allowance. Saw some that paid straight 16000 RMB. How could anyone live in Beijing on 5 or 6 K RMB? |
Take tax from that salary and add the utilities to the rent for those apartments you were browsing, and half your salary is gone, leaving 5 or 6k a month spends. And you'll earn that salary at Disney teaching kindergarten for 30+hours a week including weekends and evenings probably. Its not the worst deal out there, but its certainly no cake walk either.
Or there may be a 5 or 6k job with half the working hours and free housing and utilities included.
edited - actually my math is a bit screwy there ... but the point remains the same. The low salary jobs may come with lower hours and free living which can make a difference to some people. |
really? how much are the taxes? Also, how much are the so called utilities? What other fees are there? Is electric really expensive there? I had thought 16000 minus 5000 is still 11000 to play with. Maybe minus taxes and utilities leaves 9000 to play with? I'd love to see some concrete numbers. Not arguing or challenging you, just wanting an accurate description so I can plan if I go there. How are the provided apartments? Old and dingy or new and modern or somewhere in between? Safe or unsafe? |
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