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Nottingham-Ningbo thoughts?
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Informed & Concerned



Joined: 07 Nov 2012
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ Stuck

There has been an increase in interest in Suzhou amongst current UNNC CELE staff. There had always been a feeling before that UNNC had the edge in terms of being a better place to work (as there may have been amongst the XJTLU staff that Suzhou was a better place to work) but that no longer seems to be the case. People are looking to move over, with management style being a major motivator.

The observations are for 2 hours (line managers observe for a full class) but that is to see how fully the lesson aims are met. If the observation was for half the lesson it might seem as if aims aren't met as the observer would miss the other half of the lesson where they were met. There is also now an hour long meeting pencilled in before an observation to talk through the lesson plan etc. And there is also a feedback meeting after the observation, so the whole process is closer to four hours than two.

If you fail the observation then you will be observed again. Teaching performance is part of the Annual Performance Review, and so a failed observation might mean failing to meet expectations. The immediate outcome of that would be not getting the annual salary increase that all staff get. There hasn't been a case yet of someone failing observations and their contract being terminated.

@ zactherat

The issue about IELTS isn't really an income related one, certainly not for the majority of examiners. It's more the case that a skill we have, and a qualification that is valuable in our industry, is going to be lost. Of greater concern is that that deskilling, and the negative impact it will have on our future employability, isn't a concern to the organisation. The decision to ban IELTS is almost the exact opposite of professional development.
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stuck but surviving



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi again Informed

Sounds like the management there on a major power play and want to see how far they can push it. I never understand the need for this type of approach in our industry, you'd think these types would be involved in some other power hungry, competitive type of occupation. Or maybe, given the "academic" type of job you have, with the "academic" personality types that it attracts, might be increasingly promoting ambitious people with a serious lack of people and management skills.

It seems a shame, from all reports, Nottingham Ningbo sounded like a place to aspire to work at, but maybe not any more..
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Javelin of Radiance



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Power hungry and manipulative people are in every occupation and every field. ESL teaching is no exception.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a British friend who's working there now. He's been there for a couple years. He's taught for a long, long time, has a DELTA, hard-worker, etc. He likes it, but he says it is a lot of work. That being said, you're paid very well. More than XJTLU.
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andrewliasse



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:46 pm    Post subject: Deductions from salary? Reply with quote

Would anyone working there be willing to state what percentage of salary is deducted in taxes and social security etc monthly? Am considering applying in future...
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Kipling



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:12 pm    Post subject: Down the plughole Reply with quote

Tax % Monthly Income (CNY)
3% 1 - 1,500
10% 1,501-4,500
20% 4,501-9,000
25% 9,001-35,000
30% 35,001-55,000
35% 55,001 - 80,000
45% 80,001 and above

More depressing facts can be found below

http://www.worldwide-tax.com/china/china_tax.asp

Mind you if you are new to the country it's tax free for the first 3 years.




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andrewliasse



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks very much (if a little belatedly)
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:18 am    Post subject: Re: Down the plughole Reply with quote

Kipling wrote:
Mind you if you are new to the country it's tax free for the first 3 years.


HOw does that work? What docs do you need?
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bloggs34



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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 10:25 am    Post subject: nottingham ningbo tax query Reply with quote

Have seen the ad (on BALEAP) for EAP teachers at Ningbo and would like to know what's the net pay after tax/deductions? Isn't the rate of income tax at 40-45% for salaries of around 330k renminbi? What kind of accommodation allowance do you get? In short, what do you come out with at the end of the month?
thanks any info on this...
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Robenhiano



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:19 pm    Post subject: More info on University of Nottingham Ningbo Reply with quote

From Yahoo Answers:

"Having worked in the place for few years - I can offer some examples for you.
1) The recruitment is a joke - e.g. One of the deans attempted to hire a close relative and arrangeed the interview panel. The admin of a school only hires his own friends. As a faculty member, I had to attend the interview but knew who would be hired before the whole process. The faculty members become the decoration for the interview.
2) The working environment sucks. Some colleagues got work-related injuries but don't get any pension.
3) There is limited chance for promotion - unless you agree to kiss the admin's ***."

"It's like hell. If you want to work for an employer who treats the staff as if they were cattle, then this is the place for you"
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Shroob



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have recently worked with someone who used to work there. From what he said, Nottingham Ningbo is no longer on my 'wishlist'. Their problem was indeed with the management.
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theoriginalprankster



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Informed & Concerned: I think I know who you are.

Pompous? Self righteous and an idiot to boot.

Unfortunately I might examine with you.

Get your sock out your mouth and you will really realize you really are a common piece of nothing.

And you are not liked in the examining community.

Ground Zero bud. You're a nothing.

As per our ratings.

Improve you styles.

Love - me.
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Robenhiano



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:41 pm    Post subject: cultural diversity? Reply with quote

university of nottingham ningbo is a culturally diverse university. the management is very generous cause they respect all cultures and accept behavior of any culture. as long as it is british, of course
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slapntickle



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:21 pm    Post subject: Re: More info on University of Nottingham Ningbo Reply with quote

Robenhiano wrote:
. . . but don't get any pension.


I hope British teachers are paying their NI contributions while they're working here otherwise they'll be destitute when they retire to the UK to retire. In fact, even if you are paying and get the full UK pension upon retirement - currently £110.15 per week - you'll still be destitute!
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Shroob



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:29 am    Post subject: Re: More info on University of Nottingham Ningbo Reply with quote

slapntickle wrote:
Robenhiano wrote:
. . . but don't get any pension.


I hope British teachers are paying their NI contributions while they're working here otherwise they'll be destitute when they retire to the UK to retire. In fact, even if you are paying and get the full UK pension upon retirement - currently £110.15 per week - you'll still be destitute!


Some of us have no intention of returning and would rather trust ourselves to plan for a pension than let the government do it Very Happy
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