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Robenhiano
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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:35 pm Post subject: What about the staff? |
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Are all managers bad there? And what about the staff? Do many quit? Or do they protest? |
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Robenhiano
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 5:44 pm Post subject: FROM Economics Job Market Rumors |
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FROM Economics Job Market Rumors:
"I just heard that while the salary is on a British standard, the pension for anyone who is disabled due to a work place accident is equal to Chinese average salary, which you can't survive on anywhere else than in China.
And that the grievance system is biased, which means that the managers never lose. They get support from people at University of Nottingham in UK, who provide biased grievance investigations..." |
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muffintop
Joined: 07 Jan 2013 Posts: 803
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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Is injury at the workplace a real concern for teachers? |
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Robenhiano
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:17 am Post subject: Reply to muffintop |
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According to Economics Job Market Rumors:
"The salary is not that bad but on the other hand there is no pension in it. And it's a not that safe place. When I was interviewed I met several people there with crutches. They told me that the work environment is so so (really bad, actually) and that you get no support whatsoever if anything happens to you. If you don't get well quickly they may even try to get rid of you."
"The place is under Chinese law but according to some people I spoke to they do not even follow these laws. It's total anarchy and the managers there do what they wish without running the risk that anything happens to them. It's a lawless place." |
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vikeologist
Joined: 07 Sep 2009 Posts: 600
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:08 am Post subject: |
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So it's like a mixture of ESL teaching and extreme sports? |
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Denim-Maniac
Joined: 31 Jan 2012 Posts: 1238
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 5:04 am Post subject: |
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It sounds a little like a bunch of pampered, overpaid politically correct university lecturers have found themselves in Ningbo and expect everything to run in the exact same way it does in the UK.
When I worked in a HE college in the UK, I brought a CD player in to use for a listening track in one class ... I was duly informed that I couldnt use it until it had undergone an electrical check and been deemed safe to use. Naturally, and thankfully, such pettiness and adherence to even silly rules doesnt apply here
Id bet for most of us Nottingham Ningbo would be a decent place to work! |
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muffintop
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 5:16 am Post subject: |
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Denim-Maniac wrote: |
Id bet for most of us Nottingham Ningbo would be a decent place to work! |
I don't know...sounds like far too many people with broken legs over there. maybe they were punished for using unapproved electrical devices. |
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choudoufu
Joined: 25 May 2010 Posts: 3325 Location: Mao-berry, PRC
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:08 am Post subject: |
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Denim-Maniac wrote: |
When I worked in a HE college in the UK, I brought a CD player in to use for a listening track in one class ... I was duly informed that I couldnt use it until it had undergone an electrical check and been deemed safe to use. Naturally, and thankfully, such pettiness and adherence to even silly rules doesnt apply here |
the old health and safety administration.....i don't miss 'em a bit.
back in ancient times, was tasked with tracking radiation leakage from a
gub'mint site. planning to do a modeling experiment using blue dye.
nope. no way. H&S guys says the msds included in the package shows
the dye contained arsenic. arsenic is bad!!!! but, but, but.....it's FOOD
coloring! approved for human consumption. unlike the dilithium seeping
into the groundwater.....
oh, yeah. and there was a small creek (1 foot wide, 2 inches deep) down
an embankment. H&S guy said we had to provide a freaking inflatable
boat and freaking rescue flotation devices in case somebody fell in.....
past those purple/yellow warning ropes. i don't think drowning would be
at the top of my list of worries in that case. (see: toxic avenger) |
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Robenhiano
Joined: 03 Sep 2013 Posts: 12
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:29 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Denim-Maniac"]It sounds a little like a bunch of pampered, overpaid politically correct university lecturers have found themselves in Ningbo and expect everything to run in the exact same way it does in the UK.
So you suggest that those who work at a British University in China must expect getting disabled from some broken bones, getting no or small compensation and that this and the bad conditions are supported by false investigations from the university in UK? Who are you - a top manager at University of Nottingham? |
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muffintop
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:21 am Post subject: |
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How the hell are people breaking their bones at work? |
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choudoufu
Joined: 25 May 2010 Posts: 3325 Location: Mao-berry, PRC
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:41 am Post subject: Re: Reply to muffintop |
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Robenhiano wrote: |
According to ................ Rumors: |
hi robin. have you actually worked at that school? do you have any
real information to provide other than rumours (that's british) you've
found on the intertubes?
also, it's often nice to provide links to your quotes. kinda helps to
determine whether things have been taken out of context.
i'll start:
http://www.econjobrumors.com/topic/any-disccusion-about-university-of-nottingham-ningbo
you've got everyone here worked up, thinking the campus is dangerous
and teachers are breaking bones in class. nope. some guy going to an
interview saw several people on crutches. maybe they were injured
skiing during vacation? the complaint was that their pension (i assume
that means disability compensation, but amn't sure) was "only"
equal to the average chinese salary (for teachers? 5-10K/month).
just don't break a leg, and continue to collect that US$80,000/year salary!!! |
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Robenhiano
Joined: 03 Sep 2013 Posts: 12
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:01 am Post subject: Reply to choudoufu |
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choudoufu,
Do you have any reason in specific to believe that University of Nottingham Ningbo is a safe and good place? |
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muffintop
Joined: 07 Jan 2013 Posts: 803
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:12 am Post subject: Re: Reply to choudoufu |
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Robenhiano wrote: |
choudoufu,
Do you have any reason in specific to believe that University of Nottingham Ningbo is a safe and good place? |
Is that supposed to be an argument? |
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Robenhiano
Joined: 03 Sep 2013 Posts: 12
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:26 am Post subject: No |
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No, not at all. It was supposed to be a question. I understand and respect your critique of how I was arguing, and was now wondering whether your skepticism purely was a reaction to my way or arguing or whether you also have some other arguments pointing in another direction than what I was arguing? |
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muffintop
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:30 am Post subject: Re: No |
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Robenhiano wrote: |
No, not at all. It was supposed to be a question. I understand and respect your critique of how I was arguing, and was now wondering whether your skepticism purely was a reaction to my way or arguing or whether you also have some other arguments pointing in another direction than what I was arguing? |
The former.
You have not proved anything here. As Choudofu mentioned....we do not know why anybody was in crutches. I have a difficult time believing they were injured at work. I am sure you can understand my skepticism. |
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