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Tudor



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 3:27 pm    Post subject: IELTS Examiners - Required experience Reply with quote

The minimum professional requirements to be an IELTS examiner, in terms of experience, is a minimum of 3 years teaching of at least 14 hours a week. I recently applied, with just over 2 years of 24 hours a week, and was told that I didn't have enough experience to be considered. However, 2 years @ 24 hours a week is more teaching hours than the minimum requirement of 3 years @ 14 hours a week.

Does anyone know if it's the actual years that they're focusing on or the hours? I wouldn't mind if I was knocked back for not being considered suitable, but when I believe I do have the required experience (including a year at a place that specialises in IELTS test prep) it's a bit galling, particularly as I know a couple of IELTS examiners with less than the three years experience - how they circumnavigated this requirement is anyone's guess.
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I know, many of the details are subject to local Team Leaders' decisions. For example, some centres require a degree in anything - some seem to waive this. Really does all depend on which centre you want to be attached to, I think.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're either 1) poor at math, 2) sticklers to requirements (even those that don't seem logical), or 3) looking at your overall qualifications and feel something is lacking. Confused

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Tudor



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the quick replies guys. I meet the qualification requirements (undergraduate degree + CELTA), and I would sincerely hope they don't reject applications on the basis of dodgy maths; so quite possibly, they're just sticklers for requirements, although it does seem a little bit odd that someone with less experience would be considered simply because that experience is stretched out over three years rather than less than three.

As regards the decisions, the literature I was sent stated that all approvals or rejections of applications are done independently of the test centre by an examiner trainer. I'm sure the centre must have some say on who they choose to recruit - maybe I'm reading it wrong.

Ah well, I guess I'll just have to wait until I get that three years under my belt.
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Perilla



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tudor wrote:
Ah well, I guess I'll just have to wait until I get that three years under my belt.


Probably, but might be worth trying again in a month or two. As Sasha suggests, with IELTS a lot comes down to the local office. In HK they want two years' experience, but I'm not sure they stick to it when they're desperate for new trainees - as they often are here.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The requirement is 3 years experience. The 14 hrs/week is to ensure there was sufficient teaching hours during those 3 years (i.e. not 3 years experience at 2 hrs/week). Having more hours over a shorter period is not considered equivalent. Also bear in mind that these are the minimums, they are usually looking for more.

However, if a centre is desperate they can apply to Cambridge for special dispensation to take people with only 2 years experience. It's a hassle for them, and Cambridge frown on it, so it's only done as a last resort.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember them being very fussy to me as well about the requirements and turning me down with 2 years 10 months until I sent an email query about the requirement. In the end they allowed it when I sent an email confirming my current work hours etc. so I managed to get on the course and passed first time.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A very similar thing happened to me about three months ago when I applied. I had about 2.5 years experience where I had averaged around 20 hours a week teaching. Eventually received an an e-mail back from them stating "thank you for your application, but unfortunately blah, blah" Sad.

I can understand them being strict about the requirements but the thing that gets me is that, at least here in Vietnam, they are, depending on the time of year, often desperate for examiners, but they don't make the training opportunities available. IDP and the British Council do courses maybe once a year each for a handful of potential examiners and that's it.

Anyway in January, I'll have met the three year requirement so I'll be applying again. If anyone has any good advice on where they do fairly regular training it would be great to hear from you. Anywhere in Southeast Asia is OK Cool.
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Tudor



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks everyone for your replies. I should have known that nothing in "this game" is ever back and white.

I've been advised by someone "in the know" to resubmit my application. I don't want to say too much, but my current place of work has close ties with a test centre and this may be to my benefit - then again, it may not. I'll have to wait and see.

It's the lack of consistency that bugs me though; I know someone who's an IELTS examiner and they have about 2.5 years experience - 1.5 of which is teaching kids only, which, according to the requirements, shouldn't count. I wonder how stringent they are with checking applicants' past work history?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tudor wrote:
Thanks everyone for your replies. I should have known that nothing in "this game" is ever back and white.

I've been advised by someone "in the know" to resubmit my application. I don't want to say too much, but my current place of work has close ties with a test centre and this may be to my benefit - then again, it may not. I'll have to wait and see.

It's the lack of consistency that bugs me though; I know someone who's an IELTS examiner and they have about 2.5 years experience - 1.5 of which is teaching kids only, which, according to the requirements, shouldn't count. I wonder how stringent they are with checking applicants' past work history?


I emailed my local IELTS test centre and got told that the minimum was 3 years. I was welcome to reapply when I had sufficient experience. Something to look forward to at least.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As IELTS seems to be attracting a fair amount of interest, thought I'd copy this from a post I put on the China forum, mostly in relation to IELTS pay:

I worked for 10 years as an IELTS examiner in Hong Kong and "retired" from it last month. Obviously the rate of pay will be different in China, but the pay in HK is HK$200 per candidate ($120 for the speaking test, $80 for the written test). HK examiners sometimes do IELTS examining in Guangzhou and even get flown up to Shanghai, and get paid a bit less than the normal HK rate.

A standard IELTS session (about six hours) on a Saturday or Sunday (most IELTs work is at the w/e) involves 12 or 13 candidates, which translates to HK$2,400 to 2,600 (or US$310-335).

There is no take home work with IELTS - it all has to be done at the examining centre. It's boring, but pretty decent pay. Beats teaching English, IMO.

Some examiners in HK make their entire income from IELTS by doing sessions Saturday and Sunday and doing re-marking (ie. appeals and screw-ups) during the week, making up to around HK$35K a month. Most examiners do two or three sessions a month.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that Perilla, very useful!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perilla wrote:
I worked for 10 years as an IELTS examiner in Hong Kong and "retired" from it last month. Obviously the rate of pay will be different in China, but the pay in HK is HK$200 per candidate ($120 for the speaking test, $80 for the written test). HK examiners sometimes do IELTS examining in Guangzhou and even get flown up to Shanghai, and get paid a bit less than the normal HK rate.

A standard IELTS session (about six hours) on a Saturday or Sunday (most IELTs work is at the w/e) involves 12 or 13 candidates, which translates to HK$2,400 to 2,600 (or US$310-335).

There is no take home work with IELTS - it all has to be done at the examining centre. It's boring, but pretty decent pay. Beats teaching English, IMO.

Some examiners in HK make their entire income from IELTS by doing sessions Saturday and Sunday and doing re-marking (ie. appeals and screw-ups) during the week, making up to around HK$35K a month. Most examiners do two or three sessions a month.

Awesome info! Why did you retire?
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Perilla



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
Why did you retire?


I guess the main catch with IELTS is that it screws up your weekend. That's fine if you're not working f/t Monday-Friday, but it starts getting to you if you do.

I also got very bored with it and disillusioned over procedural changes made by the IELTS administration globally. It'd take too long to go into here, but ask any long-term IELTS examiner and I guarantee they will moan about the pernickety changes brought in over the last few years - and consequently a lot of experienced examiners have resigned in HK over the last couple of years.

Another reason is that my regular job pays quite well and I don't need the extra money at the mo. Maybe I'll go back to it someday, who knows?

But yes, basically it's still a good p/t number. If you need extra dosh and don't mind messing up your weekends a bit, go for it.
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it'snotmyfault



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few people have said that places are often in need of examiners. Is that because there's so few people who fit the criteria? Or is it more because of the points Perilla mentioned, or a mixture of everything?

I imagine a lot of people would jump at the chance to get this kind of well paid part-time work (even if it screws your weekend up). I'd be applying for it if I had a bit more experience.
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