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Working with a schizophrenic
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wonderingjoesmith



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How many people with mental disorders seek professional help? How many people are aware of their conditions? Experts may not be around when needed.

It is as unfair to declare one ill as itís to ignore his/her state of mind. An isolated office of two, three or four individuals thatís far away from their home/culture may as easily provide motives and opportunities for friendships as for unpleasantries. Posting our concerns for all ought to bring the knowledge out.

Yes, there are a few possibilities what this guyís, or any other personís, condition could be, and my coworkerís curtains or windows closing or plugging the gaps under the doors not to let any air in suggest some other illnesses. However, the point is that whatever sickness it is it may affect work, and perhaps life, of more than one person and we should learn how to cope with such people and situations. Should we think locals can help in this area?

The semester is ending and so is our coworkerís employment agreement which he opted not to renew. My colleagues that have decided to stay on and I are more hopeful for the fresh office air in September. The insecurity and poor management hasnít yet affected any of us as deeply as it may have some others around.
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drrjon



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many years ago in Taiwan I rented a room out to an American teacher. I started hearing ongoing loud conversations and arguments comming from his room but only one voice. I found out that he was arguing with rotten fruit. As we came from the same city and University I was able to contact his family who came to escort him home.
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I worked alongside a young guy who was a schizophrenic and one of the things I learned was they are particularly prone to stop taking their medication.
A point of enquiry if you suspect someone of behaviour that indicates schizophrenia could be to ask about obtaining meds in China.
Share the problem?
Tragic and scary are the take home messages I got from the experience.
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Javelin of Radiance



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Non Sequitur wrote:
I worked alongside a young guy who was a schizophrenic and one of the things I learned was they are particularly prone to stop taking their medication.
A point of enquiry if you suspect someone of behaviour that indicates schizophrenia could be to ask about obtaining meds in China.
Share the problem?
Tragic and scary are the take home messages I got from the experience.

"share the problem" means get yourself involved?
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah.
I know it is easier to let it go, but how would I feel if the person self-harmed?
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mwaltman



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All of you who claim to know so much about the diagnosis of mental illness seem to be wasting your talents as lowly language teachers in a foreign country. Why not go get your fake degrees as psychiatrists or lower as psychologists and use your man-of-steel-talents to save the world rather than complain about people online? The apparent lack of bedside manner is probably one of the reasons.

There is, I suppose, another diagnosis for those who simply complain about everything like this as compared to the schizophrenics you claim to know so much about.

It's sad really that this thread has persisted.
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mwaltman wrote:
All of you who claim to know so much about the diagnosis of mental illness seem to be wasting your talents as lowly language teachers in a foreign country. Why not go get your fake degrees as psychiatrists or lower as psychologists and use your man-of-steel-talents to save the world rather than complain about people online? The apparent lack of bedside manner is probably one of the reasons.

There is, I suppose, another diagnosis for those who simply complain about everything like this as compared to the schizophrenics you claim to know so much about.

It's sad really that this thread has persisted.


What the?
For the most part the posts have been sympathetic and helpful.
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Javelin of Radiance



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Non Sequitur wrote:
Yeah.
I know it is easier to let it go, but how would I feel if the person self-harmed?

What meds are you going to inquire about to help this person? What diagnosis and past history are you going to give the chinese pharmacist? I work right now with one person who has trouble functioning and getting along with others. Schizophrenic? who knows, met others like him and he's probably just an @-hole(any meds for that?). People generally don't like others prying into their lives, well intentioned prying included and there can be backlash. Getting involved with some stranger's mental health problems in a foreign country isn't worth the hassle, and I'm with m wally on this one, none of us are medical professionals so let's not pretend(sympathetic, sure. Helpful, unless you're an expert not really.) This is the best idea I've seen on this thread

drrjon wrote:
I was able to contact his family who came to escort him home.
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As it happens I suffer from a complaint that requires meds to be sent from my Dr/pharmacist at home.
If I'm getting low on pills and the next shipment hasn't arrived it can get scary.
Maybe have a coffee and tell of something you have an issue with ie can I get nn over the counter here?
A non threatening conversation could be a way to start help.
As usual Javelin, you go to the heart of the matter and also as usual, it's not the matter under discussion.
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Javelin of Radiance



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No disrespect intended but what is the matter under discussion? Working with Schizophrenics and people with suspected mental health problems and what should we do about it? I gave my opinion on your opinion, and I hope you'll respect that even if you don't agree with it. I'm also thinking this whole thread is about nothing since the person described sounds like your typical loud, wacky, conspiracy theory freak who lives life on the internet and is generally harmless once you get out of range of their wackiness. I also love the oxymoron at the start of the thread

wonderingjoesmith wrote:
I have been having troubles dealing with my coworker who seems to be suffering from schizophrenia. Psychology is not the area of my expertise.
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Toast



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mwaltman wrote:
All of you who claim to know so much about the diagnosis of mental illness seem to be wasting your talents as lowly language teachers in a foreign country. Why not go get your fake degrees as psychiatrists or lower as psychologists and use your man-of-steel-talents to save the world rather than complain about people online? The apparent lack of bedside manner is probably one of the reasons.

There is, I suppose, another diagnosis for those who simply complain about everything like this as compared to the schizophrenics you claim to know so much about.

It's sad really that this thread has persisted.


I like your hilena personality better. She was dreamy.
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wonderingjoesmith



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Javelin of Radiance wrote:
No disrespect intended but what is the matter under discussion? Working with Schizophrenics and people with suspected mental health problems and what should we do about it? I gave my opinion on your opinion, and I hope you'll respect that even if you don't agree with it. I'm also thinking this whole thread is about nothing since the person described sounds like your typical loud, wacky, conspiracy theory freak who lives life on the internet and is generally harmless once you get out of range of their wackiness. I also love the oxymoron at the start of the thread

wonderingjoesmith wrote:
I have been having troubles dealing with my coworker who seems to be suffering from schizophrenia. Psychology is not the area of my expertise.
In the original post, there isn't a full stop after the word expertise.
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I have been having troubles dealing with my coworker who seems to be suffering from schizophrenia. Psychology is not the area of my expertise but I can see some common symptoms this China experienced foreign teacher shows on daily basis.
No disrespect Smile
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

' just an @-hole'
Yeah a really insightful and helpful contribution Javelin.
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