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Ixchel · Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 6:21 pm Post subject:

Is it true that teachers earn $70,000 in Ontario on average? I have a friend who's a financial planner in Toronto and that's what he told me. I know that Canadians have always told me there's never a shortage of teachers and it would make sense if the salaries were so good (compared to parts of the US)

spiral78 · Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 8437 Location: On a Short Leash

Ixchel · Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:38 pm Post subject:

I don't understand. Are you talking about subbing? Are they not giving contracts to public school teachers any more? I've noticed in suburban (not urban) districts they are hiring teachers for two years then laying them off.
BUT they're still making the standard starting salary which in my area is $41,000. Houses in average neighborhoods start in the mid $500,000's.

But the larger school districts in big cities are still giving contracts-when there are jobs which there aren't right now. I have no idea about charter schools but apparently the turnover is worse even than public schools.

Could you explain what they're doing in Canada?

santi84 · Joined: 14 Mar 2008 Posts: 669 Location: Montréal

$70k? No, maybe after many decades and upgraded training. Around $48k is standard for a full contract.

http://www.servicecanada.gc.ca/eng/qc/job_futures/statistics/4141.shtml

santi84 · Joined: 14 Mar 2008 Posts: 669 Location: Montréal

My friend's husband is fully qualified to teach secondary mathematics and is still laid off every year! Unbelievable. Usually the math teachers are safe.

Ixchel · Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:44 pm Post subject:

It did seem really high to me. 48 seems more reasonable although still higher than here.
Math, science and special ed used to be safe here too. Now there's nothing in those areas but then in my city they've laid off several thousand teachers total in the past 3 years.
Just curious, do you know the class size for elementary in any of the Canadian provinces?

santi84 · Joined: 14 Mar 2008 Posts: 669 Location: Montréal

Ixchel · Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:31 pm Post subject:

Wow, California has the second highest in the country and when I was first teaching it was 35, they then lowered it to 20 and now it's up to 25-28 and creeping up with the layoffs. I didn't know Canada had such high class sizes. Maybe it's different depending on the province(?)

santi84 · Joined: 14 Mar 2008 Posts: 669 Location: Montréal

Ixchel · Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 8:06 pm Post subject:

This is why the media acts like teachers are millionaires (I read an article on striking teachers here being replaced by substitutes who cost $340 a day with pay and benefits. Haha. Subs don't get medical benefits here and they earn between $75 to $120 a day depending upon the state.) You hear all kinds of stuff from supposedly good sources(!) I am very surprised though that class size is so high in Canada, there seem to be a lot of teachers and the population is much smaller than in the US and you spend more on social services than we do I think. Or maybe that's only in big cities.
I'm guessing your test scores are still higher than ours.

Imdramayu · Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:45 pm Post subject: Job prospects

Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and up north are doing well in public school job prospects -- according to gov report: http://www.workingincanada.gc.ca/LMI_report_bynoc.do?&noc=4142&reportOption=outlook

Why is that?

Who has taught in the public school in northern Canada with a family? How did you handle your kids' schooling? Non-working spouse?

IM