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Englishpal



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:03 am    Post subject: university contracts- Hebei Reply with quote

Is it true that uni contracts in Hebei are a little more controlling than contracts found for unis in other provinces? I am being submitted with a contract that seems kind of harsh. The recruiter says it is because the school is close to Beijing.
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Javelin of Radiance



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you feel it's harsh renegotiate. If that doesn't work to your advantage look elsewhere.
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wonderingjoesmith



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think OP lacks a common sense. Most of us do our best before endorsing agreements or moving on "eslewhere". Wink

Atlhough I have only six months under my belt in the country, I know quite a few teachers in my location and they have similar issues to the original post. Perhaps local employers are more "unionized" than we are. Smile Sad

To break the ice, i'd upsell my skills and talent supported by my qualifications, experiences and general knowledge.
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Englishpal



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dreadful union- lol
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Englishpal



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the ice is broken, and the job is on the table if I want it. The problem is that the ice has not melted. The contract tries to regulate personal activities and even speech more than most contracts I have seen. It is not that I am interested in smuggling or lobbying, but the whole feel of it is degrading and creepy.
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Javelin of Radiance



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your cryptic message leads me to believe danger is possibly on the horizon. Would that be correct?
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Englishpal



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not that I am aware of. I am not too interested in danger. Will my keyboard explode soon?
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Javelin of Radiance



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt it, but just in case be sure to inform the employer that you're a good machine, and you don't need any outside regulation to function in accordance with your operating instructions. All should be fine.
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rogerwilco



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:17 am    Post subject: Re: university contracts- Hebei Reply with quote

Englishpal wrote:
Is it true that uni contracts in Hebei are a little more controlling than contracts found for unis in other provinces?


Can you post the parts of the contract relevant to your concerns ?
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choudoufu



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh, just post the contract, dammit! y'all sound like a buncha
wannabe spies in a cheap hong kong kung-fuey film!
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wonderingjoesmith



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:03 am    Post subject: Re: university contracts- Hebei Reply with quote

rogerwilco wrote:
Englishpal wrote:
Is it true that uni contracts in Hebei are a little more controlling than contracts found for unis in other provinces?


Can you post the parts of the contract relevant to your concerns ?
If he signed it this'd be a confidentiality breach. But I agree it'd be helpful to see the ice.
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it'snotmyfault



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:16 am    Post subject: Re: university contracts- Hebei Reply with quote

wonderingjoesmith wrote:
rogerwilco wrote:
Englishpal wrote:
Is it true that uni contracts in Hebei are a little more controlling than contracts found for unis in other provinces?


Can you post the parts of the contract relevant to your concerns ?
If he signed it this'd be a confidentiality breach. But I agree it'd be helpful to see the ice.


What's the punishment ? off to the nearest gulag
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fat_chris



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

choudoufu wrote:
oh, just post the contract, dammit! y'all sound like a buncha wannabe spies in a cheap hong kong kung-fuey film!


Or...sound just like a bunch of characters in a Hong Kong Phooey cartoon.

Love that cartoon. "number one super guy".

Cool

Warm regards,
fat_chris
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fat_chris



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:30 am    Post subject: Re: university contracts- Hebei Reply with quote

it'snotmyfault wrote:
What's the punishment ? off to the nearest gulag


Or...off to the nearest junior high school English Corner for four hours.

Cool

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fat_chris
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wonderingjoesmith



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kids, derailed amtrack's coming at you!


Seriously
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the ice is broken, and the job is on the table if I want it. The problem is that the ice has not melted. The contract tries to regulate personal activities and even speech more than most contracts I have seen. It is not that I am interested in smuggling or lobbying, but the whole feel of it is degrading and creepy.
Aren't local agreements lower in character and alarming? I guess this is what the forum's about, isn't it?
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