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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 1:36 pm    Post subject: Christmas truce 1914 Reply with quote

The innate goodness of the common man in the trenches. The Piggies didn't like it much. Ninety-eight years later has much changed?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOz9SpWc_yE
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Qaaolchoura



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 2:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Christmas truce 1914 Reply with quote

Sashadroogie wrote:
The innate goodness of the common man in the trenches. The Piggies didn't like it much. Ninety-eight years later has much changed?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOz9SpWc_yE

Yeah, it has, as you'd know if you'd ever tried to negotiate a Christmas truce with the Taliban. For some reason jihadis don't put much stock in Christmas.
(Which might explain why I can't seem to sell Hollywood on NoŽlahu Akbar!, my movie script about a mujahideen who has a change of heart after a visit from Santa Claus.)

Also, we don't fight in trenches much anymore, and civilized countries don't use mines or chemical weapons.

~Q
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Qaaolchoura,


" . . . and civilized countries don't use mines or chemical weapons."

There are civilized countries??? Sounds like an oxymoron to me.

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John
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Christmas truce 1914 Reply with quote

Qaaolchoura wrote:
Sashadroogie wrote:
The innate goodness of the common man in the trenches. The Piggies didn't like it much. Ninety-eight years later has much changed?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOz9SpWc_yE

Yeah, it has, as you'd know if you'd ever tried to negotiate a Christmas truce with the Taliban. For some reason jihadis don't put much stock in Christmas.
(Which might explain why I can't seem to sell Hollywood on NoŽlahu Akbar!, my movie script about a mujahideen who has a change of heart after a visit from Santa Claus.)

Also, we don't fight in trenches much anymore, and civilized countries don't use mines or chemical weapons.

~Q


You mean the Taliban are worse than the EVIL BEASTLY HUNS??? My, how propaganda has changed in 98 years
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Sasha,

You might want to check the accuracy of Qaaolchoura's post with some of the Russian veterans who returned from The Graveyard of Empires.

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John
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The sooner troops are withdrawn from Afgnanistan the better. No more foreign adventures I say.
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Cool Teacher



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
No more foreign adventures I say.


Sad

But I like adventures! Crying or Very sad

Cool
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnslat wrote:
Dear Sasha,

You might want to check the accuracy of Qaaolchoura's post with some of the Russian veterans who returned from The Graveyard of Empires.

Regards,
John


Dear Johnslat

The Soviet Armed Forces did not engage in battle with the Taliban as such, so there remains much doubt upon Qaaolchoura's post.

Sasha
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Qaaolchoura



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feel free to go there yourselves next year and wish the Taliban a merry Christmas. With luck, Karzai's misgovernance and NATO's drawdown should see them once again in full control of large swaths of the country.

~Q
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Such quarrelsomeness. Where's the Christmas spirit, eh?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Sasha,

"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet."

Though in my intended comparison, the words "rose" and "sweet" should probably be replaces by vocabulary more appropriate.

History of Taliban
Following the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1979, the Taliban emerged as a resistance movement aiming to eject the Soviet troops from Afghanistan. With the United States and Pakistan providing considerable financial and military support, the Afghan Mujahideen were able to inflict heavy losses on the Soviet troops. According to The New York Times, the Soviet Union lost about 15,000 soldiers in Afghanistan. In 1989, the Soviet troops withdrew from Afghanistan, and the Afghan Mujahideen, under the leadership of Ahmed Shah Massoud, surrounded the Afghan capital, Kabul, and took over the rule three years after the departure of the Soviets. The Afghan government that was backed by the Soviet Union and led by President Sayid Mohammed Najibullah was subsequently overthrown. The Mujahideen alliance forming the new Afghan government, led by Burhanuddin Rabbani as interim president, failed to reach political unity and ended up fighting one another (Matinuddin 12-16). VIDEO.
The Taliban was one of the Mujahideen factions that formed during the Soviet occupation and the internal fighting in Afghanistan."

http://wwwpub.naz.edu/~aamghar6/History%20of%20the%20Taliban.htm

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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Johnslat

You cannot be correct. Wiki says so:

Role of the Pakistani military
The Taliban were largely founded by Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) in 1994.[14][61][62][63][64][65][66][67] The ISI used the Taliban to establish a regime in Afghanistan which would be favorable to Pakistan, as they were trying to gain strategic depth.[37][68][69][70] Since the creation of the Taliban, the ISI and the Pakistani military have given financial, logistical and military support.[15][71][72][73]
According to Pakistani Afghanistan expert Ahmed Rashid, "between 1994 and 1999, an estimated 80,000 to 100,000 Pakistanis trained and fought in Afghanistan" on the side of the Taliban.[74] Peter Tomsen stated that up until 9/11 Pakistani military and ISI officers along with thousands of regular Pakistani armed forces personnel had been involved in the fighting in Afghanistan.[75]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Sasha,

Thanks for providing the link: "The Taliban movement traces its origin to the Pakistani-trained mujahideen in northern Pakistan, during the Soviet war in Afghanistan." Very Happy (see link in post above)

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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Johnslat

Is that kind of like how the USA traces its origins to the British colonies in North America?

Sasha
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool Teacher wrote:
But I like adventures!


...or misadventures!

Cool

Warm regards,
fat_chris
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