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CELTA - choice between two countires
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zeddy



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:13 am    Post subject: CELTA - choice between two countires Reply with quote

Hi all,

Am seeking a bit of advice between two options I'm thinking of for CELTA.

Basically I'm living in Northern Territory, Australia and looking at teaching in Budapest, Hungary [or neighbouring countries] mid next-year. I was born there so would like to go back and live/work there for a while. and have the EU passport - sorted! Summer schools initially, then something more regular at the start of the school season in September. My two options are:

* Doing the CELTA course in Budapest.

* Doing the CELTA course in Sydney.

The Budapest-based course [through International House] is way cheaper, and even moreso with the exchange rate and the high Aussie dollar. Aside from the financial side of things, I figure it would be easier to make contact during and after the course and land a job while I'm there - plus I'd be already somewhat established in Budapest.

The Sydney-based course [also through IH] has the advantage of having a dual certification of CELTA and Cert IV Tesol. From my understanding this certifcate would open more doors in Australia when I come back to work in educational institutions, such as TAFE.

I guess I'm leaning towards doing it in Budapest for my more immediate goal of getting over there and landing a job, rather than applying for them in Australia.

Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks!

zeddy
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coledavis



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, saving money is usually a good move. My one argument in favour of studying at home is that you get to teach multilingual classes. This means no short cuts with a dictionary if you've learned to read Magyar. So you have to practise mime in order to elicit, which makes you a more rounded professional (in my opinion), so it's easier to work back home when you want to. But on the whole, if you can save money by going to Budapest, I think I'd do that.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Budapest-based course [through International House] is way cheaper, and even moreso with the exchange rate and the high Aussie dollar. Aside from the financial side of things, I figure it would be easier to make contact during and after the course and land a job while I'm there - plus I'd be already somewhat established in Budapest.


I think you've got this pegged fairly accurately. Training centres usually provide a decent bridge into country/culture and this can be particularly valuable in regions (like Central Europe) where jobs aren't usually found from abroad. Given that this isn't the easiest job market to crack, I'd suggest the in-country course would probably give you a greater chance of success finding a job in the region.
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coledavis



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, Spiral's argument pushes it even further towards the Budapest option. Besides, wherever you do the CELTA, the qualification is usable elsewhere in future, especially when you've got some employment experience under your belt.
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zeddy



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the feedback there and some good advice, although I would have thought that in that area demand for English teachers [and therefore jobs] would be relatively easy to come by... maybe not so.
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coledavis



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, this just my limited knowledge. I think that there is demand for English, but also that major Central European cities are rather popular with teachers. So I think that competition was being cited.
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come to Russia! Do the Celta in Moscow!
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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although I would have thought that in that area demand for English teachers [and therefore jobs] would be relatively easy to come by... maybe not so.



Not really, though you could reasonably expect to find something. If you arrived outside the regular hiring peaks (end August - end September, roughly, with a little bump in Jan to make up for teachers who didn't return from holidays and clients who start contracts at the beginning of the calendar year), you'd probably be looking at cobbling together a few part-time gigs to make ends meet until next hiring season.
Also depends a bit what city(ies) you target: the more desirable, the fewer openings, obviously.

Also, keep in mind that there's very little going in July/August (Europeans generally take holiday time VERY seriously) and what's on will go to people with established local reps who know where to hustle to grab the bits that exist. If you'll need to be employed throughout, you'll want to get on this as early as possible.
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Kofola



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to add my penny's worth -

If your main goal is to teach in Hungary, then I would do the CELTA in Budapest because it will be easier to make contacts that way and that might help you find a job. I don't know what the Australian certification is or how much that might benefit you later on?

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although I would have thought that in that area demand for English teachers [and therefore jobs] would be relatively easy to come by... maybe not so.


I'm in Slovakia, so I have no idea about the current job market in Hungary. However, here in Slovakia there is still great demand for English. I freelance and at the moment I'm getting enquiries every week. Plus lots of my students do business with Hungarians and they tell me that their Hungarian business partners' English is often much worse. That might suggest there is market demand. This does not necessarily translate into schools looking for teachers, though. Schools round here are not always very well managed and I know that some local schools are doing less well because they don't really know how to target the market. Plus the Hungarian economy is in a worse state than the Slovak one. Taxation is much higher than in the rest of Central Europe and it probably leaves little in the purse for English lessons. You really need someone teaching in Hungary to give you the rundown on that one but they seem to be a little thin on the ground round these parts...

If you speak Hungarian that would be a major plus.
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