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DosEquisX · Joined: 09 Dec 2010 Posts: 284

OP, my school has multiple foreign graduate students, many of which are from Africa and the Middle East. They are also practicing Muslims. It is clear that racial bias is not a huge issue with regards to my uni if they are willing to accept people or color.

Chances are strong that I will leave my university after next semester. If I don't, then I can assure you that others will. When that time comes (summer), send me a text message and I'll try to set you up with an interview. It is a provincial capital. So, it isn't a middle-of-nowhere joint.

Javelin of Radiance · Joined: 01 Jul 2009 Posts: 702 Location: Sichuan

the lowlander · Joined: 10 Oct 2010 Posts: 171 Location: The Oort Cloud

doogsville

I've visited Zhuhai 3x now on my way to Macau.

I've stayed over for the weekend each time, and I can promise you faithfully I've had the full-on "gwai-lo in the face" treatment in the Gongbei border district each time I've visited.

As for the rest of your argument, if you personally choose to close your own eyes to being discriminated against, then that's your own issue.

But, once again, like all of the other pro-Chinese posters on here, you choose to attack the West

the lowlander · Joined: 10 Oct 2010 Posts: 171 Location: The Oort Cloud

hilena_westb

You didn't answer my previous question about immigrants to your own country.

You seem very anti-West, but very pro-Chinese.

Please clarify.

the lowlander · Joined: 10 Oct 2010 Posts: 171 Location: The Oort Cloud

Javelin of Radiance

You asked me on another thread (full of your pro-Chinese/anti-Western postings) if I though you were a Chinese person based on your language usage.

And having looked at all of your postings I have to say yes. Your posts are full of mistakes and "Chinglish".

On this current thread, your last posting, which included the line and I wondered why he was calling me after a Japanese poem is clearly not the written work of a native speaker.

Either that, or you had a very hard time grasping English in high school.

NoBillyNO · Joined: 11 Jun 2012 Posts: 576

the lowlander

doogsville · Joined: 17 Nov 2011 Posts: 307 Location: China

lowlander, I never questioned the truth of your expience, I only shared mine. Perhaps there is a good reason why you are getting what you describe as the full on 'Gwei Loh experience'. I don't know you, nor, from your posts, would I care to know you, so I can't comment on that.

As to my 'story', what business is that of yours?

I am not in the least 'anti-UK. I was born and lived in the UK for more than forty six years. I have extensive experience, and I choose to talk about that experience. There are a lot of good things about the UK, but since this is a forum about China there seems little point in sharing them.

Am I 'pro-Chinese'? No. I'm not sure what you mean by Chinese, but it seem to me that everyone has their own opinion on that. China is a big place with a lot of cultures intermingling, so I'm not sure there is one definition of what Chinese is. The same goes for the UK in my opinion. There are many cultures in the UK, which make the question 'what is British culture?' rather redundant. I'm Scottish, and I can tell you very few of my friends and relatives consider or describe themselves as British, including me.

As to you being racist, I never said you were. I did point out the your little rhyme, which you initially attributed to Chinese children but then admitted you made up yourself, and your assertion that 'the majority of Chinese are racist' are racist statements in themselves.Therefore you are the one making racist remarks and statements.

Please don't trot out the old 'I come from a multi cultural background myself' excuse, as though it somehow magically absolves you being capable of racism. It's as tired a cliché as the old 'some of my best friends are gay/black/Irish' nonsense I have heard so many times before, from racists who have just made or are about to make a racist/homophobic remark. It's still as pathetic now as it's always been.

Lastly, what is with your obsession with other people being 'pro China and anti west'? You seem to feel the need to apply the term with anyone who either disagrees with you, or expresses any kind of positive attitude towards China and it's people. It's a rather meaningless label in my opinion, and I certainly don't see the quite rational posts that others make in that light. I guess I'm just a well balanced individual who has no need to see the world as black and white.

What I don't understand, is why people in your position, who seem to dislike this country and it's people, and who have so many negative experiences here, continue to stay here. It baffles me. Some people might be tempted to believe that your one of those people you describe who have failed miserably in their home countries, so have come here to hide out. I'm not one of those people however. Since I don't know you, and I'm the kind of person who doesn't make personal attacks on people, as individuals or entire races, unless I have personal experience of them. I prefer to just remain confused at to what your motives are.

Javelin of Radiance · Joined: 01 Jul 2009 Posts: 702 Location: Sichuan

doogsville, some people only carry on discussions trying to bait you with meaningless and pointless statements. Don't fall for it.

NoBillyNO · Joined: 11 Jun 2012 Posts: 576

pro-Chinese as opposed to anti. Is there a category "take em or leave em" .

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the lowlander · Joined: 10 Oct 2010 Posts: 171 Location: The Oort Cloud

It's a pretty sad state of affairs when certain people rabidly and consistently attack their own culture, and seek to insult those who would defend it, whilst at the same time actively promote a culture that widely labels them as laowi and gwai-lo.

It would appear to me that such folk don't actually come from the culture they purport to represent, or that they couldn't cut the mustard in the lands of their birth, failed to get any meaningful qualifications, and subsequently became happy to lap up the scraps of 5000 to 6000 rmb tossed at them from the tables of their unscrupulous employers.

The people who take the Utopian view of China and the Distopian view of the West, regardless of whether they are posting as party apparatchiks, or folk living in a personal bubble, will all be in for a rude awakening when China's economic growth stalls (as it inevitably will) and the masses launch the umpteenth bloody revolution in China's history.

DirtGuy · Joined: 28 Dec 2004 Posts: 487

lowlander,

I find your last paragraph interesting as I have been wondering the about the same thing since I got here. In talking to my students and bosses, not a single person has ever experienced an economic downturn in their entire lives! I wish I could say that. You are right in that it will happen at some point but it could be quite a while before that day actually occurs. When it does, I think China will be hostile towards anyone from outside the country and not just people of color. They've got to vent their anger somehow and the governments seems to be quite good at deflecting blame.

Speaking of non-white Americans, I've started asking individual students how they would feel about having a black or ABC teacher. Their responses have all been along the lines of not caring as long as the person is a good teacher. I want to do a survey about their attitudes when next semester starts but I understand surveys are difficult to formulate correctly. Anyone got any ideas they'd care to share?

DG